adhawkins Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Where is this member rating, I've looked all over, has it been taken off? It was removed as a few people thought it was a bad idea. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V 8 Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Pah, probably that Rob Meldrew & Victor Conibear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conibear Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 But have you got any explanation in why the WSCC does not organise much/if anything down south? What sort of things are you referring to? Track Days specifically? Or just 'things'? As far as track days go, there aren't really that many tracks in the South. The ones I can obviously think of are either too hampered by noise limits (Combe and Goodwood) or (probably) quite expensive in terms of track hire (Brands). There are plenty of active areas in the South, and our AO had the idea for our 'Meet the Neighbours' event (where people from any area are welcome to spend all day Saturday and early Sunday at our area meet location). That's coming up soon (admittedly in Swindon, so probably the opposite side of the country to you). What else did you have in mind? Andy Anything, bear in mind it is a motorsport forum based on a car. Was meet the neighbours organised by the WSCC or AO, thats what I am referring too Most trackdays throughout the UK have limitations on noise. Brands Hatch, Bedford, Silverstone, Castle Combe, Goodwood, Lydden Hill even Snetterton would do. There are shed loads of airfields that are cheap. Why not venture abroad, SPA etc.. How many paying members the WSCC got? Do you think it would be fair to presume that if one pay's their £25/30 quid membership fee it would be unfair to presume that the club should organise an event for them That will get Victor going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhawkins Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Do you think it would be fair to presume that if one pay's their £25/30 quid membership fee it would be unfair to presume that the club should organise an event for them That will get Victor going Specifically for them? Yes, I would think that's unreasonable. Mark (markcoopers) made valid points earlier on. People seem quick to point out that nothing they're interested in is organised by the WSCC. However, ask them for suggestions and you get next to no response. The Committee are not mind readers. If people are not happy with what the Club does, they should make sure the Committee know, either personally or via the AGM. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dern Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 There are loads and loads of people on here who arent WSCC members so dont feel pressurised to join! I believe that once you've bought a car then you should join. The £25 quid pays for the infrastructure of the club, not the content. That is to say that things like the forum, the mag, the various events and so on are made possible by us paying the cash but the content of these things is still down to us and you can't justify not paying the money just because the contents of the last mag weren't particularly interesting. I think it's better to keep the forum open to all though as the benefit to future owners (and therefore to the future of the club) is surely more important than the revenue lost from owners using the club's resources without joining the club because they aren't forced to. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhawkins Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 I believe that once you've bought a car then you should join. The £25 quid pays for the infrastructure of the club, not the content. Why wait that long? I got much more than 25 quids worth of value out of the Club while I was still looking for a car, so joined while I was still looking for the right one for me. Agree with what you say though. Web sites and the like don't pay for themselves... Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzer Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 I got much more than 25 quids worth of value out of the Club while I was still looking for a car, so joined while I was still looking for the right one for me. Agree with what you say though. Web sites and the like don't pay for themselves... Andy Did you really get more than £25 out of the club or the goodwill of its members. It is different, if you had a problem with your car that I could help with I would help you reguardless of if you were a WSCC member or not and I expect most other people would as well. There are other ways of funding web sites though without charging people. locostbuilders seems to do ok. Bazzer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conibear Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Do you think it would be fair to presume that if one pay's their £25/30 quid membership fee it would be unfair to presume that the club should organise an event for them That will get Victor going Specifically for them? Yes, I would think that's unreasonable. Mark (markcoopers) made valid points earlier on. People seem quick to point out that nothing they're interested in is organised by the WSCC. However, ask them for suggestions and you get next to no response. The Committee are not mind readers. If people are not happy with what the Club does, they should make sure the Committee know, either personally or via the AGM. Andy OK, if we can't do a motorsport event, what about pottery Was meet the neighbours sponsored/subsidised by the WSCC If not then no it can't be a WSCC event can it. If it was thats unfair surely. Wasn't there limited numbers with a closed entry list early on So, you think that when YOU join an organisation, YOU should organise an event on behalf of that organisation. I disagree. However, I totally appreciate the need for volunteers. Lack of motorsport events in the South has been discussed here many many times Andy, you know that. I have had personal communication about this with commitee members in the past, you can't tell me they don't know this problem exists. Thats me (Victor) out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markcoopers Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Problem exists, news to me. I'm aware that one AO tried on several attempts to run a westfield only event through MSE on Kembel, Hullavington, Keviel even Colorne (Bath), but lack of support scuppered it. Yep, lack of support. So you want a Track day in the south, OK. When, and roughtly in what area? Let me know by Pm/emaill or phone, 07860 582321 and i'll find something for you. However once established, if we can not get the support, it will be cancelled. Cadwell springs to mind, Yep cancelled this year due to lack of support and that starts to get expensive. Why not try the Westfield Factory Track day in September at Bruntingthorpe in Leicestershire. £129 i think, but details are on the flyer with this edition of the mag. If we do not support these events, then they will go. Spa, Abbeyville, northern Europe are all attractive, and for the real enthusiast I'm sure highly interesting, but the club is not just trackdays for those that only want this. It is a club that encompasses all aspects of Wesfield motoring, and that means that some would prefer a pint and a natter rather than a sweety day dressed as a power ranger. However if I get dates venues, then I expect your help in filling the 30+ entrents needed. I'll also note this as the 2nd ever idea sent to me as a request for something to be organised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Westy Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 I'm aware that one AO tried on several attempts to run a westfield only event through MSE on Kembel, Hullavington, Keviel even Colorne (Bath), but lack of support scuppered it. Yep, lack of support... I've said this before, but part of the problem is that us Southern Softies venture a long way to various events, but in general this does not seem to be reciprocated (bar the very heroic Nick Algar making it all the way down to Lydden recently!!) Our closest event is around 3 hours away, we travelled 7.5 hours to an event the other weekend. But ask the northerners why they aren't doing Hethel/Lydden etc and the answer is usually "it's too far". We support the northern events but don't get the same support down from people who live in the North (or even the midlands) to allow viability.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Navin Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Do you think it would be fair to presume that if one pay's their £25/30 quid membership fee it would be unfair to presume that the club should organise an event for them That will get Victor going You already know my thourghts on it. This would be a S*** club if we all sat back waiting for people to do things for us. Are you this laid back in work and home life ? If people don't like what the club has to offer they will not join or keep the membership active. I'm not spouting the glories of the club. I am deciding myself if I am going to rejoin when my membership runs out this year. The difference is I have made my thourghts and feelings known to the commitee and have tried to do things to help with the club and its apeal. You have to accept in life that you can't please all the people all the time but you are looking for a club that does. If you find one let me know and I join that with you. For someone who it trying NOT TO MOAN you still sound like you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffC Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 £25 per anum = 48p per week and I thought there was more money down south :'> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Stanton Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Ian - if you feel you are not gaining any benefit from the WSCC then don't renew or join, simply support a.n. other club that you feel benefits you for your needs and requirements Its variety, everyone is different - You have your Westfield Racing website which you enjoy - good luck with it and every success for the future, if that's your thing then just go out and enjoy yourself at what you do rather than defer that anyone else doesn't do something for you :'> Firstly may I suggest you perhaps give motorsport vision a call and check out circuit availability and costs for a trackday at Brands Hatch :'> and then provide a financial plan of admin costs and how many drivers will be needed to make it viable if that's your interest. With regard to sprint invites for the WSCC down south we accept as many as poss for the calendar - not only are they poorly supported by the Northern and Midderlanders - but even our southern based contingent provide few other than the die hards that attend :'> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomy Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 I never have understood debates like this.Join if you want to, don't if you don't. I joined because i wanted to be a part of something i had an interest in. I wanted to feel a little bit special i suppose and be "in the club" if you like. I don't care if i never see an event on my doorstep either.Events do happen, i will travel if i want to, it's no biggy to me. I can get advice on other forums etc sure, but the magazine, advice and family feel i get from these forums from all corners of the UK is enough for me to pay such a minimal amount. I never approached my membership from a "what can you offer me?" angle.I doubt i would join any such club for those reasons, it just seems to be the wrong approach to me. I just got into the spirit of things due to having a love for the cars and the people involved.I'm sure many other clubs members from model clubs to sewing circles joined for the exact same reasons whether they had to pay for the privilege or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Westy Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 With regard to sprint invites for the WSCC down south we accept as many as poss for the calendar - not only are they poorly supported by the Northern and Midderlanders - but even our southern based contingent provide few other than the die hards that attend :'> Indeed...and as I said the last time we had this discussion - if someone is on a limited budget but is taking part to be competitive, rightly or wrongly they will go to the events that are well supported where they know they will have good competition and be able to score full points :'> :'> PS Remember the country is a lot wider down South than it is up north, so just because an event is sarf, it doesn't mean it's accessible for all Southerners - it's quicker for us to get to Harewood than it would be to get to Wiscombe, for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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