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Seem to remember the noise limit for that MSE event was a bit unrealistic for 90% of Westfields.

Pretty much all MSE events are 100 dB. I had trouble passing at one event, but was Ok at most others.

No way around that, apart from to visit a 'noisy' track. There don't seem to be many of them 'down south' (Llandow is the only one I can think of off the top of my head, and that's not in the South of England!

Andy

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And also stuff saying that the curborough weekend is a great introduction to trackdays. I would strongly disagree with that.

How about if I said 'taster' for taking your car on track.

Yes, an airfield is safer but even a 'cash' arrangement at an airfield that I did shortly after getting the SEiGHT was a considerable cost for getting the car on track compared to Curb'.

Yes, it would be silly for you to trailer your car up to Curborough for a couple of laps but then again, you've always been trackday orientated. I'm talking about the people who use their cars on the road but want to see what it's like without going to the considerable expense of attending a 'track day'

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I think the reason why clubs struggle to fill trackdays these days is that times have changed. There are now plenty of good providers of track days.

When I had my TVR many years ago I was a member of the TVR car club. The club run trackdays were over subscribed to the point you sent in your form and it went into a ballet to see if you got a place.

Another example of how clubs used to offer a valid service that now is Irrelevant.

I also think single make trackdays can sometimes lead to the wrong vibe at trackdays. But that is another argument   :D  

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Anyway, on the basis of "if you cant say anything nice, dont say anything at all" I shall shutup now :)

If only.....

I think the phrase re saturday @ curborough was "cheap introdution to motorsport", not "trackday"

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cheap as in what ........... sprinting is cheap as in overall cost or cheap as in value per lap ......... there are 2 ways to look at the cost of sprinting.
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cheap as in what ........... sprinting is cheap as in overall cost or cheap as in value per lap ......... there are 2 ways to look at the cost of sprinting.

We're talking about the sessions on the Saturday, not the sprint.

The Saturday is cheap as in 'cheap'. The most I've ever seen anyone pay is a fiver for a couple of laps (donation to charity). No payment was requested last year.

Andy

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Harv, you miss my point. The "trackday" offered on sat at curb is for a no cost event for all comers to whack their car round for a couple of laps at a time.

Al was saying that he wouldn't trailer his car to curb for a trackday, and neither would I! This is not a trackday as such,  the track "action" on saturday is a no cost or "cheap" introduction to Motorsport, as in "oh I like this, where can I get some more"

I think we would all agree that Sprinting is definately not cheap in terms of £,s per mile or car upgraditis, but is so in terms of fuel, tyres & general wear and tear.

I know this in't a sprinting vs racing or trackday thread, but FWIW I sprint because I don't have the mental and physical stamina, nor the bottle to race, and because the craic and banter in the paddock is great, and I can compete with myself and the track aswell as others

(Flymo wouldn't last more than a couple of laps before it broke in half anyway!!!!)

JT

(Sorry, bit serious for me) :oops:

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As far as I can see, the WSCC functions pretty well in the view of most members  --  and they are the voices that count. If that were not the case, we would expect to see membership dropping (which, at least to the last AGM report, it wasn't).

Like any 'single interest' association, WSCC comprises a heterogeneous group of people, all with many different interests  --  only one of which is Westies. And even within 'Westies' we will inevitably have prime focus varying (tourers, blatters, 24/7 users, polishers, pub posers, racers, sprinters, etc.)

It would be completely unrealistic to expect that:

- all the offers of the club will appeal to all the membership, or

- all the activities of the club can be geographically convenient for all members, or

- all members will get on with each other.

I was once given what I regard as sage advice about being in any situation. The only 'constructive' options you have are: love it, change it, or leave it......

.....the AGM is coming up  --  a good opportunity to do any of the above!

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I volunteered to help the committee with the Social and events side of things, every issue of WW since I have writen and asked people for their suggestions on what they want to see organised......To date 1 suggestion.

The committee is very aware that the club has a healthy motorsport following, expected really, but that the other 8,000 odd westfields built seem less engaged. I deliberately try and force a non motorsport agenda to try and ballance it, when in fact I also favour Motorsport. However if no one says what they want and is then not prepared to do something about it what does anyone expect?

The club is relevent in the modern age, the fee coveres members cards, callendars, the mag, stickers, pens, diarys, insurance (yes it is important), and as with any group/band/club society etc, you get out what you put in. Many people expect these bits, as it adds to the feeling of belonging to a club.

The club has to appeal to a wide audience, even if the more active members are focused in or on one area/element. Sorry but we as a club WANT to cater for all, it is not a case of HAVE to, hence Courborough not Spa.

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it went into a ballet to see if you got a place

Hmmm, cue visions of lots of TVR drivers in tutus flouncing about the place  :p  :laugh:  :D

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If you want to organise a low-cost high-enjoyment event, why not organise some drift tuition / practice events???

It's much fairer on those less financially well-off than any timed event, as skill rather than the car dictate the result.

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Hmmm, cue visions of lots of TVR drivers in tutus flouncing about the place  :p  :laugh:  :D

Isn't that normal for TVR drivers? ???

:)

Andy

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If you want to organise a low-cost high-enjoyment event, why not organise some drift tuition / practice events???

It's much fairer on those less financially well-off than any timed event, as skill rather than the car dictate the result.

I'm not sure that Westfield's are particularly suited to drifting are they? ??? (as usual, happy to be proved wrong...)

Andy

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If you want to organise a low-cost high-enjoyment event, why not organise some drift tuition / practice events???

It's much fairer on those less financially well-off than any timed event, as skill rather than the car dictate the result.

Biggest cost of events is venue hire and insurance  :<img src=:'>  :<img src=:'>

Check out hire cost of a venue and the insurance involved  :<img src=:'> + marshals etc etc You can't simply use a supermarket car park  :<img src=:'>

and Windy won win a drift  :D  :D  :devil:

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