Blatman Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Hooray.......home time. Play nice 'til I get back........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfieldman Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Two words my friend. Atmo Cosworth. Tunned Pinto and tooo heavy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatman Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Don't you start....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Seabrook Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 oh bl**** hell Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruffythefirst Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 You missing a vital piece of your cossie arent you Mr B Scruffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfieldman Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 You missing a vital piece of your cossie arent you Mr B No all 160 kg's of it is there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARSDALEBEAR Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 9 page thread and nobody has stated the obvious. X-Flow owners dont need to brag about their engines potential. More than enough usable power,cheap,reliable and plenty of bits around. Henry knew what he was doing when he introduced this marvel of automotive engineering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruffythefirst Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Henry knew what he was doing when he introduced this marvel of automotive engineering Yup, he'd found a way to triple the sales of oil Scruffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfieldman Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 F 16's and f15's and X-flows have the same oil system Total loss oil system i.e. you refill the oil at the same time you refill the fuel tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARSDALEBEAR Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Henry knew what he was doing when he introduced this marvel of automotive engineering Yup, he'd found a way to triple the sales of oil Scruffy "Yawns"......that old cliche again This minor design flaw is more than compensated by the overall excellence of the total package Besides,look at the advantages...rust free underside and axle casing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruffythefirst Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Cost you more in oil over a year than it would to tune a zetec, and thats bl**** expensive (to get to vx or cossie power levels at least) Scruffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mb893 Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 I'll say sorry in advance (sorry), but a nearly sensible question needs to be asked here... How much money would it take to get any 4 pot car engine to ( A ) 150bhp/ltr? ( B ) 230bhp/ltr? ( C ) 270bhp/ltr? I really would appreciate some serious answers on this... not actually axe grinding at the mo And I'd just like to add that SteveD's eloquent and charming relpy fully meets his usual exacting standard of objective discourse - keep up the good work that man! John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Navin Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 9 page thread and nobody has stated the obvious. X-Flow owners dont need to brag about their engines potential. More than enough usable power,cheap,reliable and plenty of bits around. Henry knew what he was doing when he introduced this marvel of automotive engineering. Probably best letting the 16 valve boys carry on with the p******** contest without getting involved mate Just sit back and think smug thourghts Perhaps we should invent a new formula for working out which is the best engine and find out which is the most fun in a westy. Oh hang on they all are arn't they Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mb893 Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Oh hang on they all are arn't they Now you're just being maliciously reasonable aren't you. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick M Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 ( A ) 150bhp/ltr? ( B ) 230bhp/ltr? ( C ) 270bhp/ltr? - 150bhp - potentially very easy and cheap for most 16v engines. A stock 2.0 VX with the standard injection will produce 150bhp and a Zetec on carbs should be able to do that too. - 230bhp - starting to depend on the engine now, because this is getting into the realms of cam changes, maybe some work on the head, pocketing pistons (hence engine strip down), etc. I'm also assuming at this point that carbs and standard fuel injection set ups have been thrown in the bin and throbble botties and a mappable ECU are required. Best guesstimate - 3.5-5K - 270bhp - possibly not that much more than 230bhp, although again some engines may need more head work than others which can be time consuming. You'd probably need different cams and, depending on the revs needed, standard rods / pistons might be marginal. Other than that, you'd have bought most of the kit to get the engine to 230bhp so there's not really a great deal of difference. Best guesstimate - 1K on top of 230bhp amount. NB these guesstimates don't include things like exhaust systems, air filters, plumbing, dry sump systems, etc. It's purely to build the basic engine. Actuall installation costs will, most likely, be somewhat higher by the time you fire the engine up for the first time. But then, for example, a 2.5K Busa engine isn't just a plug and play option and will require additional items like a dry sump system, exhaust, mixture tweakage ?, prop-shafts, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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