DamperMan Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 With 20/20 hindsight I’m sure a lot of decisions for all of us would have been different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff oakley Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 The big issue is that those opposed to leaving have used every thing to stop any attempt to leave. When he prorogued parliament it was not illegal and had been done many times before, it was found to be unlawful by a court which had never been involved in parliamentary dealings in the past as they have always been outside legal control, but that is something we could all argue on. What is clear now is everytime any government wants to do anything the people want a court could overrule them. I suspect the power of the court will be curbed after this for the benefit of future governments. The deal he has on the table is one which many do not want to accept. Further delay just gives people opportunity to find even more creative ways to block it happening. If there is an open ended time frame what will happen more paralysis? Even the EU can see the stupidity of the games being played now. Corbyn is refusing to accept a GE, one he knows he will lose so instead he wants to get a situation where a no deal is legally blocked so even if they lose they get control of parliament whilst whoever is in power tries to sort out the mess. The EU have therefore said that they will not say how long a delay they can grant until he makes his position known. They want this over as the EU is free falling into recession and uncertainty hence their stance. Even when this is decided we will have many years of further negotiation to deal with everything that comes up and the lawyers will get even richer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonPeffers Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 Only 110 pages of Boris' new EU Withdrawal deal differ from Mrs May deal published a year ago so with 650 MPs there are about 6 MPs per page to do the studying of the plan and now the PM's offer is to extend the time to scrutinise the deal until 06 November. I almost wet myself laughing when SNP MP Ian Blackford was on tele saying the job was now to study the deal line by line----this after he has repeatedly stood in The Commons and said Brexit must be stopped. If your position is it must be stopped why analyse???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man On The Clapham Omnibus Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 It would have a number of amendments added by remainers. Mainly there would be a requirement for a second referendum (sorry, (People's Vote - sounds cuddlier), and membership of the customs union. The first would certainly contain a 'remain' option and there would be more than one leave option so that remain would predominate after the vote for the other choices were divided. The customs union would prevent UK making trade deals with any other country separately. That's why he doesn't want it to progress further until (he hopes) he's got a decent parliamentary majority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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