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Looks like Stoneleigh is confirmed for August bank holiday weekend: https://www.facebook.com/Stoneleighkitcarshow

@Rush Motorsport - no he’s not talking about me 😛

If he goes much slower he will stop!😂🤭

aka c*cking about.

Hate run flats especially on the earlier cars which clearly where not designed for them. My 2014 320d for instance is suprisingly good.. but still better with my winter tyres fitted. They are basically the work of the devil. Tyres have traditionally been the primary suspension, and smooth out a lot of the road. Leaving the secondary suspension at the damper and springs to do more of the bigger ride stuff and handling… These things are at odds with each other.. so you want decent low speed damping to control the rate of roll, pitching etc… and then relatively softer damping to allow the wheels to travel over rougher ground. But with run flats the damper will be processing high frequency, short amplitude stuff all the time which alters the mean low speed movement and also the higher speed movement . The solution BMW uses appears to be softer suspension mounts allowing the dampers not to be dealing with some much of the high frequency stuff.. but this then adds to the next challenge that updated dampers and springs need to work in harmony with the soft top mounts or they get out of phase with each other.. so you can get a whole manner of strange happenings. Noise, wheels pattering on the ground…. All the devils work!

Much prefer my pic from 2018😳

Cadwell once a year is enough for me. It's a right bl**** trek but not in the distance sense it's just a ball ache of a drive . I've never been to croft though

Details of the suggested route for Saturday..... https://www.plotaroute.com/route/1574903?units=miles I think, at the moment we have 5 cars staying all weekend, and a further 5 joining on Saturday. Westfield run 19 June – 148 miles (178 miles if taking in Glencoe) Incorporates a few stops / regroups / and to allow for piccies, or if anyone wants to go ahead at a ‘brisker pace’! Start Real food café Tyndrum, 10AM ish (Breakfast from 9AM) https://www.therealfoodcafe.com/ North on A82 Glen Orchy B8074 A85 to Dalmally A819 to Inverary – Regroup at large CO-OP car park (on way OUT of town on A83) Lochgilphead – Fuel stop (on way out of town A816) https://riverside-filling-station.business.site/ Crinan Harbour piccy stop / toilets. https://www.visitscotland.com/info/towns-villages/crinan-p235241 Kilmartin Lunch stop – carpark at rear of Kilmartin hotel, or in museum grounds. Either v. good take away snack kiosk in grounds of museum, or Kilmartin Hotel (good beer garden) Single track road West side of Loch Awe to Dalavich Single track road Dalavich to Kilmelford A816 to Oban Fuel stop / Regroup at large ESSO 2 miles beyond Oban A85 A85 to Connel – OPTION TO TAKE A828 TO GLENCOE (Adds 30 miles on) then A82 Tyndrum Connel to Tyndrum A85 Finish Green Welly car park for a blether. Any comments / suggestions welcome!

That’s a first for me to correctly explain anything… another point I forgot is undamped mass is bad…. So if you allow the wheel to stay still and the tyre to do the work that’s good, there’s only a bit of rubber moving. Where as it appears on my BMW For instance on the front to smooth the ride the top mount is soft as soft so now every road imperfection moves the massive heavy tyre and wheel, wishbones, brakes, strut, whole spring, and the whole lot adds up to the mass of the moon freely moving about independent of damping!

We've run the same set of non run flat winter tyres on my wife's 320i and then a 115i. Yes the ride is less harsh, hard to compare the grip levels. I think the 115i's handling is sharper with the run flats. Though the tyre sizes aren't identical. the run flats are lower profile and wider. The rolling circumference is the same. Some tyre experts suggest the stiffer sidewalls of the run flats are parts of the suspension effectively. Hence in theory you should possibly change the springs and shocks if running on non-run flats. I'm sure @DamperMan will have some good input to this topic. Given you're driving and ability to feel how a car is handling @maurici, I take your knowledge and judgment on such topics as valued. Many BMW's drivers (I've had two), are more interested in the badge and not so much about the dynamics of how the car rides and handles.

Stopped for lunch by the river at Clun during a 200 mile trip round south shropshire/ east wales today.

Hi, new member, just in the process of buying a pre-lit from North of the border. Live in Norfolk, be nice to hear from any likeminded people nearby. Steve.

@SteveH used to do a great coordination job on the trackday front for the club and the back office staff for the club feel it may be worth another go/experiment. So from myself putting my hand up earlier in the week, I will now be taking up the role of trackday coordinator/liaison/advisor for the club. This is not to stop/take over any of the current organised events between club members but to try and add further value to a growing group of Westfield club members. I will establish a single point of contact with many of the large Track day organisers and manage where possible the discount code for the club or further discount for large numbers 10+. I would also like to try and get a couple more official club days together, but this will all depend on the members support. I would like to offer support to novices who would like to dip there toe into trackdays, I often see new members say general touring Westfield with a couple of trackdays a year, these are the people i would really like to help. As starting out for your first couple of day would be much easier with the support at the curcuit from other members. Finally I will be the contact for flags, gazebo etc to be booked in and out, that would like to be used at trackdays. It would be great to get some more publicity for the club at these days and hopefully adding a little more off track organisation will help. I will be looking at some dates of days throughout the rest of the year and start the tdo liaison over the next couple of weeks. There is a great core group of friendly track day goers in the club and it has been slowly growing in the last couple of years. A few more would make club only days more viable and the first bonus of that is no clio's to deal with 😁. Many thanks Simon.

Well. As some of you know for my posts here, I did buy a 2016 BMW M340I touring about two years ago. Is my tow/family/gofast to places car. The car came, from the bmw dealer with the well known runOncrap tyres BMW tends to fit in all cars since the early 2000s... in that case, a set of 2018 (brand new when i got the car) goodyear efficientgrip in 225/45/18 and 255/40/18. The ride was harsh, noisy, the steering vague, tramlining on the road was terrible, and it was quite understeery. I would seem to crash over bumps instead or round over them... the lateral grip was poor... I allways thought... "well... msport pack, msport shocks, so... fxxx yourself" Lucky me, i did hit a front tyre and developed a bulge in one of the side walls, so was time to change them (the tread was still new). I have assembled now NON runflats eagle f1 assymetric 5 from goodyear. In 225 45 -245 45 reducing the width in the back, coz i know better than BMW engineers. The car feels like a completely different car. -No more road noise. -Rounds the bumps and holes much better, no more crash. -The lateral grip and the braking are A MA ZING in comparison. -The steering is now comunicative. And the precision is great. -Is now neutral when the toys kick in rather than continuosly busting the front end. -the change is THAT BIG that i just cant beleave it. How on the earth BMW vehicle dynamics team gets away signing off that pile of **** with the runoncraps, having the possibility to release a car that behaves as mines does now? Is simply incredible. Has someone else done this trancision? What have been your feelings about it? Im astonished, really. Allways knew that runoncraps where a bit... well... crap. But this difference is so abysmal that i fail to see the point of the runoncrap at all...

Hi guys I’m based in Glasgow so probably not local for most, but I’ve got a red gazebo 6M x 3M that the club’s welcome to use anytime. It’s only been used a few times for promotional use by my first aid business, but it’s not branded. Only obvious issue is transport though.

Making it lighter.......

Always up for a local one ☝️

So have I.

i can have a look. going to try and get a few from now to the end of the year @Mole asked for cadwell so thats what i am trying to sort in this thread. i will then make some new threads for each of the new dates i can get any discount on cheers

Entered !

So I gave them a call today. Both my Westfield and daily driver sorted quite pleased with A plan 👍🏼

Fabtastic news, I just got this email (personal info redacted). I have to say this is a great response from the DVSA

@Mark Redpath - WSCC Membership Secretary

If the cap fits...🤷🏾‍♂️🤡

2003 you say? Wasn’t it always Buz back then?

check your insurance is still valid, if it was supplied as a run flat car they would expect it to have run flats in an accident

Another point aswell, most of the bmw models fitted with rfts have issues with alloy wheel cracking particularly in the larger diameters or heavier cars. I guess as a consequence of the lack of sidewall damping?

Ah yes. I had misread (doffs cap) now edited.

Well. Indeed the tyre is part of the suspension. Not only in RTF cars but in all... And It would make sense if they were managing to achieve the same complilance you would have with normal tyres but with RTFs... the thing is... it doens't happens. Changing the tyre wall stiffness you are effectively softening the car on fast and small movements where the tyre should deform and the RTFs don't. I'm also pretty sure the whole wheel resonance frequency gets altered as soon as you put normal tyres. Is that a bad thing? well, In my particular car seemed to work well leaving the shocks to deal with slow long-travel movements and the tyres do what they are designed to do that is smoothen the ride. Glad not everyone sees me as the crazy driving spanish... 😛 I tend to take with a pinch of salt what the forums says... specially in a mainstream "twatt attracting" brand like BMWs and its forums... so i could not beleave It would do such a difference... but... it did. As automotive engineer for a major OEM myself, I hesitate to follow the forum trends of "we know better than the engineers" but in this case, it seems to be the way to go. Well. It is true that the tyre is part of the suspension, so, if they have been developed toguether, definitely they are meant to work with each other, but nobody said they were meant to work well... XD. I doubt that... for certification purposes, rolling resistance, fuel economy, power to the wheel homologation and so on, you are meant to develop the car with series representative stuff... including tyres... Edit... I see I've crossed posts with @DamperMan. I'm glad I've not said anything stupid as he seems to make the same points as me (ish), but correctly explained. 😛

Ive never even noticed them TBH.. @maurici Got to the bottom of it now I think!

I’m not sure that is true, on some cars run flats are an option and on others different wheel options also change the tyre type. We changed from run flats on Wife’s previous mini and it was more supple, then this mini, running the same tyre wheel combo came with standard tyres, there is a mini compressor and tyre weld kit in boot so suspect it come from factory with out run flats. I really can’t see them having different spring damper set ups, but I could be wrong

When we had a BMW Mini it was so much nicer even on Winters than the summer RFT. In the end I swapped all of the RFT, it was much more compliant and quieter

Sorry to hear of your wife's anxiety @DamperMan sadly this seems to be a key covid related issue that gets swept under the carpet by the media. We live on a small cul de sac and all the neighbours are nice sociable people and we all rub along well with the occasional street gathering for a drink. Or even just a chat stood in the street while the kids play. 2 houses have barely been seen for the past 12 months as they work from home and a self confessed fear of being around people in fear of Covid. They are all double jabbed. Just to relate as this is a car based forum. Last year 2000 people a month were killed or seriously injured on UK roads and that was a quiet year. We accept the risk and just do it without even thinking. Hell we even do it as a hobby!

Yep. Run flats are the work of the devil. I'm currently running an old 6 series and the transformation just from ditching the run flats was amazing. Reduced tramlining, noise, ride quality improved and the car actually wants to turn in now. I also had read all the stories of people saying the same online but refused to believe how changing a serviceable set of tyres for another could be so transformative. I do now.

the second post i have made in as near as many months... but i suggest you check out the science behind the vaccines, i mean in detail. i have been desperate to get my first jab but the online site was suggesting a centre too far away for me to reach , yet others in my street got it done in the next town which is a few miles away. although your kids may not suffer or die from the virus, they can and do carry it even if they exhibit no symptoms, the last estimate was 30 percent of humans show an asymptomatic response in catching it, meaning they dont even know they have it in the first place, thus spread it unknowingly. there is also the fact even if you have had both doses you can still catch and even spread the virus, although currently this is thought to be around 4 percent risk value. i qualify this statement from reading many peer reviewed papers , i suggest you do the same should you disagree. i do not do snake oil, i do science and facts and what is true, what long term effects are you expecting... this virus will be with us for quite some time, we either get vaccinated or risk the consequences, i appreciate its up to the individual but personally its not about me, its about others , protecting others who may die or suffer from my actions. sorry for lack of caps, but i have issues with my hands r

hello, its been over a month since i last posted something, but this thread means a lot to me so please forgive me in saying how i how have been getting on. as some will know not only do i suffer with poor mental health but my skin issues mean i can not do much at this point in time , typing this message is quite painful to do but i will continue. my mental health to be honest has been - this will be censored no doubt... ****. i have to say though, today brought some hope in that i eventually after many months got my long awaited call for the first vaccine jab, i am 55 and have been sitting on my phone awaiting the call - yes i know the online thing is of help to some folks, but i was unable to get to the nearest suggested place to be done, there are places closer to me but these were never offered via the online website. so tomorrow i am having my first jab of the vaccine, at my chosen location . i do hope this will improve my mental heath as this has been declining in the last few months, I have a few elderly relatives left alive that i wish to visit before its too late and i had refused to visit them until i am fully vaccinated, mainly to protect them rather than myself. i am trying to keep busy but my skin issues do prohibit this some what , i have done some stuff on the car when i can , and i will at some point post this , but its hard for me to work a camera with one hand, in that its hard to work my fingers to press the buttons on the darn thing... back to mental health. thank you simon for the last post i am glad that adams thread is not left dormant for too long, as its it such an important subject that those you who do not get all these posts and are fortunate enough to not have this problem should perhaps count yourselves extremely lucky. although i dont post much at the present time , i am able to work the mouse view posts, i have wanted to join in with a few of them but was unable , so sorry about that. as simon says - there is a gag there surely - i too hope all those who are not in the best of mental health are doing ok and i do fully intend to be back to full health as soon as is possible sorry for lack of capital letters where required but i cant work the left hand at the mo. take care all , speak soon richard

Im trying.....👍

Absolutely fantastic weekend, this is one of the highlights of my sprinting calendar. Unfortunately I can't make it this year due to another commitment but anyone thinking about this event should definitely do it.

Folks It took a lot of persuasion and liaison with Knockhill to secure the WSCC an entry to this event in 2019. Anyone who attended back then will tell you this event was one of the highlights of the year. A fantastic track, well organised friendly welcome, and (back then at least) plenty of spectators to all add to the atmosphere. Yes its a long way to travel for many people but it is well worth the journey, so get your entry in. This is one event that "if we don't use it we lose it".

Been a while since this thread was last used, and thought it's worth just checking in. Hope you are all OK

Still not able to enjoy the sunshine quite yet but managed to get the stripes fitted this weekend. More in my build thread.

Who said the westy wasnae practical ….😂😂😂 A great day out took the long route to visit mum via the lecht, corgarf ( bacon roll cake n coffee) then down strathdon and kildrummy over Huntly and Aberchirder to Turriff I’ve kept missing Scott with his megabusa so he popped over from new Byth for a blether then it was in by to pick up some plants on the way home. Left at 10 this morning and home at 9 just as the rain started… happy days

Mid Term adjustment fees are £30... however we do discount this to £15 for just a change in registration. So just to update, £15 has been refunded as the discount was missed 👍

I have to cancel, birthday celebrations sadly.