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It looks worth the starting bid to me. what I don't understand though is why forum members always talk down the price of other cars for sale yet then when the time comes they complain that their own cars wont sell for half the cost of their investment or make the price they want Unfortunately all this type of topic does is devalue the brand

This was my first attempt. Built in 1976 for £350 inc 'car tax'. In those days, if you paid that. it was classed as a new car and didn't need an MoT for 3 years. No IVA, no SVA, no testing whatsoever. So it ran with no handbrake for 3 years. Then spent another £300 on new subframes and a GoldSeal 1100 engine. Ran it for 9 years, did 92,000 miles in it then sold it for £850. This pic is a little bit of a cheat 'cos it's from another owner in 2000; just before the car was exported to Milan, but it's the only digital one I have. 'Twas he who added the wheel arch extensions and the stripes. It may still be being driven around Italy. Oh, and the build instructions were 2 sides of A4

Ok folks carbost on skye to Durness was about 300 miles on some of the best roads you will ever drive on !!!!! Only way to describe today is WOW , we had a glorious days driving and met up with Dave and his daughter making 5 cars for the day even the last hour in the rain didn't stop us Really folks put this trip in your diary for next year we arrived here in Durness like drowned rats but happy ones if that makes any sort of sense and on checking in a young lady who works for the nc500 asked about the cars as she had been following us through the afternoon and had some pictures she asked if she could use them, She had been amazed that we kept on driving in the rain there have been so many great parts to today

Last lot of pictures for tonight.

Many thanks guys for a brilliant run with you all yesterday. It was great to meet old and new friends and I'm only sorry that I missed out on getting soaking wet with you all on the run between Ullapool and Durness. It didn't rain on our way home after we left you! A fantastic day all round and we did 330 miles door to door. Even losing my front cycle wing didn't spoil the day. Can't get Sunburst yellow anymore, so it looks like I'm going for black to replace them. Enjoy the rest of the trip. David

Can't wait to get back up there in my Westie again! They're stunning, and very enjoyable even at a relaxed CamperVan speed as we did last week.

Agreed, Dave! Every time I get a new-to-me kit car: alignment (check spring rates, ride heights and bump stops), remap, set up driving position (throttle and clutch travel, brake pedal position, seating position and steering wheel reach) - always totally transforms the car. Even if you know this has all been done recently, your driving position and pedal setup preferences are very unlikely to match the previous owner.

My makita driver and drill / driver combi set is still going strong after 10 years with a fair amount of use (lots of DIY / timber garage build / westie / etc). Did have to get a couple of extra batteries last year as 2 of the 3 didn't hold charge anymore. Just got some Chinese copies on ebay which work great. Personally, when I need another set, it'll be Makita for me

Up in Durness now and we arrived like drowned rats. We drove through shocking rain for about 70 miles with no roof or doors on.....because we could and we loved every minute.....well we did afterwards when we where talking about it. We where followed by a car who stopped Gary and she said that she had followed us and was amazed....I will let Gary tell the rest. We left Skye this morning and met with David and Christina who had driven for two hours to meet with us. We then all headed over to Applecross and Gail was so happy that she drove the pass and she was like and excited child at the top...she had loved every minute of the drive and it showed. From here it was upon the coast road to Gairloch.....Bob made friends with a lady who flatly refused to reverse her vehicle to let Bob pass even though it was difficult for Bob to reverse at the time. I was two feet short of having a motorbike in the cockpit with me. I drove round a sharp bend and a motorbike was on the wrong side of the road and he was about 20 feet from me heeding straight at me. I hauled all my brakes on and he did the same. He ended up on just the front wheel and he stopped right at the side of me. I looked at him and he said...."sorry" and that was about it. We where both really lucky. We continued North and said cheerio to David and Christina at Ullapool and unfortunately David left with a missing cycle wing. Onwards we went to Durness and the rain was heavy and constant....I pulled over at one point and asked everyone if they wanted their roofs on and their reply was...Where loving it...Bang on.....so we did. Anyway, loads more happened as usual but it takes so long to write but everyone of us is having a fabulous time and we have met some lovely people on our way north and we have so much to do yet. Starting to get tired a bit on a night also as our days have been full on from morning until night and already thinking about having a few days off to recover from the holiday. Day around Durness tomorrow and then going onto the Orkney islands.

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If you see this man do not approach, call the police immediately.

Weather looks iffy! I will bring a cup. Pasty warming on the exhausts?

Quite a fragmented MOT according to DVLA with only 3 available and registered for 1st Jan 1971 Strange on a Q to have this .

Definitely got some nice bits on it! Gearbox - if the 5th is semi helical like 'normal' then it could be fine on the road, personal preference as had been said. Mines like that and I love it, drama and whine when you're booting it, quiet when cruising

SE is live yes, but sometimes people get confused about what SE and SEi mean... (it also is the standard width, later referred to as a narrow.) Theres lots of expensive stuff on there, and though one or two areas look un finished? Or perhaps just opened up for service, the general quality of the work looks decent enough, though photos can be deceiving. its very track orientated though, straight cut boxes can get old news for road use... (They're loud!) Also note that the various updates and upgrades have left the bodywork a little chopped about. Not a deal breaker, but might affect the price. Spaking of bodywork, it's the earlier style, known as "Kit bodywork", current ZK and FW bodywork parts aren't a direct fit. Though some stuff is still available for narrows, I think. Get that at a good price though, and assuming it is mechanically straight, it could be a real cracker. As far as someone going the little extra distance and getting it roadworthy goes. It's a bit of an odd one with stuff like Westfields, you'd just think people would do it every time, for an easier sale and a better price, but it never fails to amaze me how many, when they decide to sell, almost sort of down tools where they stand and walk away! So there's not necessarily anything untoward, though personally I'd always prefer a test drive.

Looks ok, did you notice it's a straight cut box which is great for track but limited for road use? Engine is highly tuned and looks to have all the right bits but it's on the limit for an engine of this type for longevity. Not sure what brakes and dampers it has ? Looks like an older car with a great hi spec engine. If you can get it at a good price and factor in finishing it and using for track days give it a look over. Once you mot it and start using it regularly keep some cash for the inevitable customisation to make it yours. It looks to me like a great idea by the owner he never finished yet.....

Err what car? Link missing

I picked my Sierra up in May 1984 when I was 21, they were probably built around the same time.

Can't do this as I don't get back till late the sat night too knackered I imagine

I'm in not in Dubai till week after

Yep, that's the set I mentioned earlier. Get really good life from the batteries, and the actual drilling and driving power belies the numbers!

More money, but the Makita 10.8V drill/driver combo pack is worth every penny imho. http://www.diy.com/departments/makita-13ah-li-ion-combi-drill-impact-driver-twin-pack-2-batteries-dk1486w/947431_BQ.prd?ecamp=Seapla&ppc_type=shopping&ds_kids=92700020304403856&gclid=Cj0KEQjwmcTJBRCYirao6oWPyMsBEiQA9hQPbifMmmDQn8ylMItmLUiXP-0e2JF2_3B956-sSHTmmzkaAgUA8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds.ds&dclid=CM_yl-mhn9QCFUviGwodhKsKRw

Nope not worth it . I also don't think you save any money using cheeper supermarket fuel comparing the mpg you get with shell or BP. Having been a sad git and used a fuel app on my phone for the last year supermarket fuel just does less mpg . So to save money just keep a eye on prices on stations that you drive past and top up with premium fuel when you see a good price. Ps I am all in favour of people shopping on the forcourt as that's where the profit is not in the fuel so those shoppers subsidised my motoring

Here's mine in 1997 after being started for the very first time and driven out of garage, hence silly grin. And I'm still too tall for that roll bar !

Weather still looking half decent. Have been going over the car, new brakes all round, and yet another attempt to make an old Pinto cam cover oil tight! .. thinking about it, I bought it off Terry Everall a long time ago, being a Yorkshire cam cover, it should be tight one way or the other..

Ah, happy memories. My first kit car and indeed first car was a Dutton Phaeton Series 3, built with my dad at the age of 17 (so 1984). I funded it totally myself, remember travelling down to Worthing to collect it, kit price including a few extras was about £650, donor MK 1 Escort 1300 was £20. Travelling back through Central London was an experience, long before the days of the M25. Initially it ran just the standard engine until that blew up when entering the Stoneleigh Kitcar show, this years return visit after 32 years was therefore a little unnerving. Engine was replaced with a Howley Race Engines 711M blocked 1300 X Flow that was a great little engine. Apologies for the blurred photo but they were the days before autofocus Subsequently followed up in the late 1990's by a Grinnall Scorpion that had to be sold due to divorce and then in the early 2000's by a Westfield with a Lotus Twin Cam - photos are of the car as it is today, for sale without engine and box literally 15 miles away from me in Whitchurch. Was a lovely car and came with a spare Twin Cam engine that stupidly I never got round to collecting (would be worth a fortune today)

if you can get your car to Adam R for a setup then i would thourghly reccomend it having just had my own done by the man himself. it was the best bit of money ive spent on the car since finishing it. i dont like driving mine to work because of all the popel that tend to look at the car rather than where they are going. and its all boring main roads on the way to work

Truer words are rarely spoken! It does seem to have got better in the last ten years, at least within the club, but still in the mind of the car owner at large, petroleum heads included, there is this strange acceptance that all sorts of things should be ignored or turned a blind eye to, BECAUSE ITS A KIT! No, no, no, no, it doesn't have to be that way! There's really only quite a small number of things that are different due to the cars origins, and handling is most certainly not one of them! Standard recommendations for all new kit owners, unless you know they've already been done: Get a good professional geo set up done, get the engine set up on a rolling road, by someone that knows the engine type, and then just keep on top of regular preventative maintenance, and you will be astounded at how some cars especially are transformed.

Don't get me wrong, I love a good pre-lit as much as the next guy, but some just don't look right, and this seems to me to be one of them. Nine and a half grand seems steep when you would need to spend more on it to get it back to the original condition. Would be a lovely little project for someone though, just at a bit more realistic buy it now price. As Justin said originally though, it may just be a case of he doesn't really want to sell it, but is getting pressure from "other quarters" !

lol! I'm having exactly the same trouble at the moment! The sunshine is lovely, but living out in the sticks surrounded by fields of farmy type stuff is not great for yellow cars. I keep thinking I've chipped or marked the bodywork, and I thought I'd picked up some gelcoat crazing earlier this week, turned out to be a harvester spider!

Yes Gary. Had the pre-lit for many years and know where it is and a good friend with the owner, after I got in contact with him here. Yellow cars are nice, except when you fit bodywork on a sunny day, like I did on a mates Westie a few weeks ago and got insect attacked

Shouldn't do! A lot of owners seem to put up with this 'because it's a kit car', but when set up well they don't give any nasty surprises like that.

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Thanks ThrustyJust, I wish it was as simple as the big ticket items I identified... And thanks for your offer of support. There's quite a long list of other stuff, new front wheel studs (to be honest taking 2 days to change the rears was the final nail in the coffin of my attempts to fix him), lower temp thermostat, remount the dashboard, hopefully swap the light for halogens on a relay, new seats (I still have to order), get the new MoT legal stick on front plate, properly fix up the loom repair I did and get him through the MoT And since they two guys have had him, they've already identified all the fuel hose are perished (oh that lovely ethanol eh?), Oh and top up the rear diff, I left him on stands tilted forward for so long the oil dripped out the bleed hole. And the banter is all part of the club, we are a very broad church and for all the crap the xflow dinosaurs give you next gen Playstation engined wonder boys, we are still secretly impressed by the magic that goes on in modern engines. If we all drove identikit cars, where would the fun be. I'm really looking to hear him rumble, pop and fart again - not so sure the neighbors are..! Although did any of you clock the yellow 5.0 Stang in the background? It's got a Roush exhaust on it and when it starts in the mornings I run about the house clutching my bits...

Here is a few pictures.

I think there has been a touch of copy and paste gone on in that post

I'll be there.

What a truly fantastic day. Glorious sunshine reigned supreme. Started our day before breakfast and got in at 10.15pm. I was woken by a text at silly o clock....do you want to go for a walk. Had breakfast and then set of for the north of the island. We took the hotel owners son with us and he had a brilliant time and he said that he loved every minute. Went to Staffin to look at the cliff waterfall and the dinosaur footprints. Then it was over to the Quariaing via the Old Man of Store and the views where magnificent. Then had a great explore at the Fairy Glenn and this is a wonderful place where all the fairies and the King of the Elves live. Because of the hot weather we where going to go to the Fairy Pools but decided to head for the Skye Ferry and Eilean Donan Castle. The Ferry was closed again due to repairs so it was over the Skye Bridge to the castle. After there we ended up in a pub where we had tea and listened to three chaps, just sat at a table playing two fiddles and a guitar. There has been so much happen today and we have had so many laughs, I just don't have the time to write it all. I am with a great group of people and the places we go, the things we do together and the banter and the way everyone just helps each other.....I wish I could tell you all how great it has been today. Tomorrow we have a long drive as going to Durness via Applecross and Ullapool. Pictures will follow when I get a better internet connection.

They've made a good start already, solved a big problem by removing the massive nut behind the wheel. Best of luck to all involved, it really is a testtiment to the amazing nature of the club and its members. I'm sure Mr Grumpy will be back to fitness before you know it.

Hope to make this one! Andy