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Bringing this thread up to date the whole lot was completed and emailed off to the MSA 2-weeks ago for their final approval and now I'm pleased to say that todays post brought me a pack containing the signed Homologation Documents. It hasn't been the easiest journey to get to here, and the process in total took about 3-months to complete. I'm sure a car manufacturer with experience in making applications could have done it in half the time, but I'm glad I did it as I now have a roll bar which to me is much more in keeping with the diminutive scale of the car than that which the MSA blue book would have required from me. Also and equally as important I have a bolt-on solution which other owners of JW4's can adopt for their own cars if required.

Having successfully completed the simulation the next stage would be to have a roll bar made. To save time I actually took a chance and ordered this before Christmas whist MIRA were still doing their simulation, it was a gamble to take but I had confidence in my design and it also allowed me to save several weeks in the process. In fact Martin at MJS Fabrication turned this around in only 1-week for me. The final step once all that is completed its time to submit the application formally to the MSA for certification. The application document itself that needs to be prepared consists of 6 pages of details and questions. This includes various drawings of the roll bar structures from various angles, details of the attachment method, component weights, material specifications for the steel tube. The last two pages are reserved for a series of photographs of a fully assembled roll bar showing the bar fitted to the car at various angles, the different connections and attachments and also the location and details of the unique ID plate. As one can also never have enough stickers I had to get a stack of 80 metal stickers printed up for the ID plates (that being their minimum order ) That should leave me with a few spares since Johnny Walker only ever made 56 cars in total

All 400 tool rolls now finished, ready for Stoneleigh: Now to find a place in the house to store them - they fill my estate car completely! The company that did the screen printing obviously want more business off the club and without my asking, made a few sample foam coasters - clever sods. It's good to be chairman sometimes! Apparently they've also done a couple of sample mugs, looking forward to seeing them - show bribe for next year's Stoneleigh, maybe?

Nope, that would require the finishing of the winter upgrades. And for that, I'd have to start them first!

...a free Club Tool Roll for all club members! (Tools not included, obviously!) Robust and made from tough polyester, it has 22 individual compartments plus holders for 8 x 1/4" drive sockets and 7 x 3/8" drive sockets; press toggles for adjusting the length of the securing cords; and a handy carrying handle. (It has also passed the fearsome Lady Chairman Inspection Test ©, so quality is assured. ) It's the ideal thing for the boot box or behind the seat in your Westfield, and it's our way of giving back to our wonderful members. OK, now the dreaded Ts & Cs - read them carefully, I shall type this only once. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a blatant, unapologetic bribe to get the best possible member turnout at Stoneleigh - it's as simple as that. You will only get a free Club Tool Roll if: > You attend the National Kit Car Show at Stoneleigh, Warwickshire on 30 April -1 May 2017 > You are a WSCC Member, Joint Member, Trader, or Sponsor The procedure will be simple - you can collect your Tool Roll when you collect your name badge in the outside marquee. This will make it easy for us to ensure only members receive a Tool Roll, and that they each receive only one. What will not be allowed: > Taking more than one Tool Roll > Collecting a Tool Roll for another member who can't make it to Stoneleigh > Posting a Tool Roll before Stoneleigh - collection at Stoneleigh only > Reserving a Tool Roll before the show - too complicated, too resource tapping. Show up early to avoid disappointment We have a limited quantity of these and they will be distributed strictly on a first come, first served basis. Any left over after the show will be taken to Silverstone where the same procedure will apply - we will have the leftover name badges from Stoneleigh so we will know who didn't make it to Stoneleigh and is therefore entitled to a free Tool Roll. After Silverstone, if there are any left, we will send them out to any overseas member who asks for one. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The National Kit Car Show is a great event, and the WSCC have by far the biggest presence of any club there. The Stoneleigh Organising Team do a fantastic job putting together a terrific show and great time with no reward apart from seeing happy members and the gratification that comes with giving back to the club. Between this and all the other things the club and the show have to offer, you'd be mad to miss it, SO LET'S BE HAVING YOU THERE!!! ...and before any of our fashion conscious members asks, this is the only colour scheme available!

I have heard from a reliable source that the LDMC sprint on 1st and 2nd April will be a great event and people will get lots of runs as at present there are not that many people entered....so if you want plenty of runs then get your entry in now!!!!!

top stuff m8

Blimey Mark no one could accuse you of half measures!! Keep up the good work. Looking forward to seeing the finished article.

Looking forward to seeing everyone tomorrow

b******* off Slingsby

wanted 4 speed dog box to play in D

Thank you to everyone for your help on this one, particularly Tony at Spax who I have ordered my new shock absorbers from, he has been extremely helpful. Thanks once again, Mick

Well done Ian. It got those funny wing things on it. My wife has things with wings.............................. Not that you went anywhere, but .................. er .........welcome back

I've found Westfield ownership is like Malaria, it just keeps coming back no matter how hard you control it with a dose of sanity.

The documents were duly submitted to start the process and once agreement in principle had been obtained the next hurdle would be to obtain a calculation report from MIRA for the proposed design. Sadly MIRA were not being as generous as the MSA in waving their fees but luckily my past experience as a design engineer came in useful here as I was able to produce the 3D IGS Models they need to undertake the simulation as else I would have been charged extra for them to model it from drawings. The 3D models are loaded into their stress analysis software and from this 3-loads are applied simultaneously in different directions to simulate the effects of a severe accident and impact on the crash structure. For a car of less than 470kg the loads applied are13.2kN laterally, 49.5kN Longitudinally and 66kN Vertically The MSA technical guidelines allow for a maximum deformation of 50mm and thankfully my design passed with a maximum of 13.5mm.

Seems more interesting than the rest of the mundane car park, although I was nervous all day and the day couldnt end quick enough

Any of these? The 25mm one would cover the centre I think: http://parts-shop.westfield-sportscars.co.uk/index.php?route=product/search&search=Badge

Nice one. Glad to see you're still in the Westy fraternity

Here is a chart... Make of it what you will

Gareth, There are a pair on Locostbuilders.co.uk at the moment. Locost_col is the seller name. Not sure if they're suitable but pehaps worth a contact.

Scott raises a very good point....... my insurance covers Social, Domestic and Pleasure, none of which tie in with going to work never mind driving the Westie to or from there!!!!

Brings up an important point - make sure you're covered to drive it to work on your insurance, or you could find yourself deep out of pocket if it goes Pete Tong in the car park.

No time tonight, so had to do it early Yours is easy, just shove everything in a trailer

Count me in, I'm trying to organize some leave so that I can volunteer to help out. Got my new toy so looking forward to showing it off and meeting fellow members, because of work I sadly do not attend club meets with Gary and the Nott's Derby crew.

yes I have one with the moulded scuttle going to have something made cheers anyway

I'd pay someone to do the correction work. As others have said the gear to do the work is expensive. And u also find it very boring I lose interest very quickly lol.

What's this thing called work?

It looks like a good turnout then.

Me! So this week I decided to tidy up the wiring while prepping for Aim Dash, DTA ECU and Savage Switches installation. This involved lopping off a load of unused connections for such useless items as heaters, wipers, fans, analogue gauges, electric soft-tops etc (who needs such paltry items when an AeroScreen and Digi-dash does it all). This left me with a bag of spare goodies... But then I came to wire in my new switches and lights - and some just didn't work, like the brake warning and ignition lights. After a lot of head scratching, I realised there was no power getting to them (rather than a duff connection or dodgy LED) - which equated to no ignition-on feed to the green wires. First port of call = fuses. Nope, all good. Then it was the bodged in DRLs I that used the (now defunct) heater circuit as a means to be on with ignition. Nope. Then the fact that the ECU was not actually wired in yet and hence the fuel pump relay wasn't firing (and had a green wire going to it). Nope. OK, maybe it was the fact that I hadn't connected the alternator yet. Nope. Eventually it dawned on me that perhaps some of the green wires I had snipped off as part of the bag of connectors might be daisy chained and not Tee'd as I had assumed. Oh yes. You muppet! So undo all the neatly heat-shrunk and insulated ends I had added, connect the double-greens back up and daisy chain them again - bingo, we have power to the people!

Sunday to Monday for me

I can't go to work in mine as I car share with 2 others, so one would have to hang on to the roll bar and there's so many bits from work on it I probably wouldn't have a job by the end of the day!

I thought about it. But that was as far as it got. I do a lot of 'thinking about it' miles

Only time I washed mine since 2015 is after a spin at Mallory Park and even then I didn't get all the mud off

ill be there on Monday.....

Thanks mate. Well, as I'm not going to do the full season, is not worth the trouble but no doubt I'll have to swap class in the future if B keeps being the ugly duck. I do have a Hans but i hate it. I have to try this híbrids posh systems to see if they are any better. I thought that for having a loogbook on date harness and seats were mandatory... Anyway many thanks for the explanation!

good answer Barny

I'll be there on Sunday. Can't do Saturday or Monday I'm afraid

Sunday camping over to Monday,looking forward to it

I'll be popping in one day either Sat or Sun depending on the weather. I've been every year for the last ten and every time I promised I'll get myself a 7 type car. This will be my second Stoneleigh in my own kit car

Me too, Saturday to Monday, looking forward to another fab weekend!

Yep I'm there sat to Monday midday. probably helping on Scott's car

The face of the club will be there Sunday and camping over EDIT and working in the marquee of course

Sunday to Monday again for me this year...looking forward to it, apart from the camping bit!

Saturday to Monday for me too. I'll second the hope for sunshine after last years roofless drive in rain and hail!

second this - got mine here only this week! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ROTOPAX-SAVE-2-Gallon-ROTOPAX-Fuel-Pack-Fuel-Container-Fuel-Can-/232179456241?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368

A quick glimpse of what it looks like right now

Thanks for all the private messages but Magablade bought today :-)

I know Buttercup has used Bogg Bros, a few times.

Sorry, can't help with the actual question, but you might be surprised by the common solutions that people find most comfortable for touring. Nobody tours more than Buttercup - I think he prefers a half hood plus half doors and wind deflectors - allowing a really good amount of luggage to be tied on the back...