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its 30 f***** quid for **** sake to join .its hardly the end of the world , its nothing over a year for what you get back for it , i think its worth paying the membership to support the club and get the benefits and full use of the forum , you tight arses that for some reason dont want to pay a measly £30 and reap these benefits yet just want to moan about it really need to have a look in the mirror and get a life ,if you dont like **** off ,simples

The dark side banned non-members from its forum. The thing died (imho). This club allows non members to view and post on the forum. That should be enough. It is right that non members shouldn't have all the privileges that members have, to turn your argument upside down, there wouldn't be many members. Just for the record the dark side charges about double for membership than the WSCC. For less than 8p per day I doubt you'll find better value in any car club.

well they **** me off the whining gits want all the benefits but dont want to contribute anything towards the club ,bleedin free loaders **** me off , free loaders have no right to moan about the wscc , when you pay your membership then you have a right to a opinion until then shut the **** up

There's a work around for non member search as previously posted on this thread..... what the devil, do you need someone to hold yer ******' hand while you do it? Anything that's really free is usually worth exactly what you pay for it..... Soo, guests CAN search the forum, they just need to use a little initiative... They can't PM, fair enough I think, and they can't reply to For Sale adverts.....Big Deal...! If I post a for sale advert and I want non-members to have the option to respond it's hardly difficult to include an email address or telephone contact number in the body of the advert is it? ( I do it as a matter of course personally), but If people choose not to do this, maybe they are electing to give other members first dibs at the parts they are offering for sale. Again isn't that normal within the confines of a club or association? When I first bought a Westie, I came on here, looked around, figured out that it was a very worthwhile investment and joined up. If it's THAT IMPORTANT to you, it's hardly expensive to join.... If it's not that important, what the devil are you whining about beeetches? :laugh:

I agree with Captain for he is the finest purveyor of Pringles and Popcorn to the Boardroom if you don't want to pay up then put up / shut up about what you think you should and shouldn't be able to do :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

If you don't like it then................. Jog on...................

I don't give a monkey's hoo-haa about other lesser forums, or about how they run them. As a paid-up member, let me tell you what those restrictions mean to me: > PMs from members only means I don't get dodgy, stupid, hurtful or pointless communications from anonymous imbeciles and faceless companies or spammers. If you're not a member and you want to communicate with a member, you can still do so publicly and on the boards - it's up to that member whether they wish to communicate back. If there's something that needs to be said privately, then again the non-member can post up their email address or phone number (or allude to it), then take the post down afterwards. So non-members not being able to PM is no hardship whatsoever. > Not being to do a search means you have an incentive to become a member to access a huge wealth of information and experience gathered from years and in some cases decades of experience. Now, I've shown you how to get around that using Gadgetman's Google method (which would work on other member-only forums as well), so that isn't an issue, is it? > Not being able to post in the For Sale section - again, there are ways and means around that, mainly either posting a request in the Chat area or the seller posting email / phone contact details in their ad. But it does stop tyre kickers and day dreamers from wasting the time of the seller, which is entirely the point. Last time I checked, you had to pay to advertise your car for sale in AutoTrader - members get to post ads for free, and it's targetted at the right audience too. The restriction is to stop non-members taking advantage and selling cars for free. You look at it as what others can't get for free - I look at it as what value I get for my money. If you think that the notion that there's a difference between cost and value is quaint; that I'm wrong when I disagree with giving away something of worth for free and I don't think it's right that it should be acceptable and desireable to encourage people to come through the door and add little or no value in return; and that my thoughts are from the last millennium, then I'm guilty as charged, but they are of just as much value in 2012 as they were in the 20th century or at any point in the history of free enterprise. I think your viewpoint of why it can't be free is quite naive to say the least. The reason this forum works is because it's for Westfields owners and enthusiats. Frankly, the only reason anyone would come into these forums is that they either owned a Westfield and wanted to discuss Westfields with fellow owners, or becuase they wanted to own a Westfield, in which case if they were truly serious about ownership, they would pay to join to enjoy the extra benefits therein. I don't want a free-for-all boardroom where people who have nothing to do with Westfields can crap in the sandbox. I've been on many of the other boardromms you mention, and frankly they are a mixed bag of pearls and poo. At least this boardroom has a single focus, not trying to be all things to all people and just being a maze of twaddle. How on Earth you can compare a database of knowledge, experience and advice to Facebook, Twitter and Google is a mystery - it's certainly inaccurate. Those few restrictions are no real hardship to anyone, and act as a protective screen to true owners and enthusiasts, and I for one as a paying member, enjoy them. Those time-wasters, day dreamers, Internet tough guys, basement dwellers, and tightwads who feel that because of these slight restrictions they are being hard done by can always choose to post elsewhere and deprive us of their "wisdom". Of course, members also have one other advantage - they can go into their Settings and Ignore people like me if they disagree with them...

chill out dudes - it really don't matter that much does it shall we get back to discussing cars :westy: :westy: :westy: :westy: :westy:

Q: What's the quickest way to turn a fox in to a dog? A: Marry it.

Couldn't agree more with this. Dunno what all the fuss is about. Either you decide the forum is for you and pay up, or bu$$er off. Matt

You're entitled to your opinion, but in my opinion, your opinion is nonsense. Do you think this boardroom costs nothing to run and maintain? If non-members can have all the same privileges as paying members, what's the point of joining? If you'd like to set up a site and administer and maintain it that would ever be a pimple on this site, and do it for free while dealing with the high and lows of society, I invite you to do it and wish you the best of luck. People who aren't members should count themselves fortunate they can post in here at all and get the seemingly endless patience and wisdom of paid up members who respond because they want to share their passion of Westfields with others - many sites won't be so accommodating. Nothing personal and not having a pop at you directly. I'm usually quite neutral. But I couldn't disagree more.

I saw this poor old lady slip over on the ice the other day. Well, I think she was poor. She only had £1.20 in her purse.

A woman visited a plastic surgeon who told her about a new procedure called 'The Knob' where a small knob is placed on the top of the woman's head and can be turned to tighten up her skin and produce the effect of a brand new face- lift. Of course, the woman wanted 'The Knob'. Over the course of the years the woman tightened the knob and the effects were wonderful, the woman remained young looking and vibrant. After fifteen years the woman returned to the surgeon with two problems. 'All these years, everything has been working just fine. I've had to turn the knob many times and I've always loved the results, but now I've developed two annoying problems: Firstly, I have these terrible bags under my eyes and the knob won't get rid of them." The doctor looked at her closely and said "Those aren't bags, they are your breasts". She said. 'Well, I guess there's no point in asking about the goatee.'

Myself and the Ginger One will be there, although I wouldn't mind a bet that the Girlies will have a table round the corner! Del

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I think with Softbits there's a bit of added complication as they do seem to be perfectionists, and a little wary of Westfields. (I wonder if maybe they've been caught out in the past and had trouble/complaints?) As you say though, if you can wait, the increasingly popular Playskool stuff is bound to get sorted eventually. I've got a sneaking suspicion that they just may be the sort of good old British cottage industry that thinks CAD is what you call a bounder, before challenging them to a duel!

Rob To answer your question they are the (Licence Free) PMR 446MHz ( 8 channel + 16 Pre-Programmed ) radios but also work on LPD ( 69 Channel ) frequencies. Bombero The midlands also have the dual 2.5 and 3.5 mm connectors, although I'm not sure on their distance apart. Whether their the same as BT or would your mics would fit the midlands ? If they are no good for you and they would fit mine I might have a plan !! Where and how much were yours ?

(Fast-forward video to 16 seconds in - go full screen for best resolution) Funny commercial for ESPN starring top baseball player Albert "The Machine" Pujols...makes me wonder if this is the sort of thing that happens in Blatman's head when someone asks him a question...

I dont want to be drawn into a debate about whether my subscriptions should fund a webpage for the benefit of others who dont want to contribute but still wish to have the benefit of it, but one thing I will say: if the alternative is to have advertising to meet the cost of supporting the website then I would be dead against that.

Blatchat... You can't even use their forum without being a fully paid up member of the club. FWIW I think the ballance is right on here at the moment. I have no idea how much/little revenue advertising brings into the club, but I have no desire to see pages over-run with commercial advertising or pop-ups when I'm trying to read other stuff. There needs to be a good incentive for people to contribute to the club and I think we have that at the moment. If you want to send PM's and use the search feature to obtain information then the option is there to contribute and enable these functions. If you want it for free then use google as posted above. Remember that paid up club members are also able to contribute and vote at the anual AGM if you want change.

Anthony Worral Thompson received a police caution for stealing cheese and canapes yesterday..... Apparently that was just for starters..... When his agent was told he'd stolen cheese, he retorted....."How dairy...."