pistonbroke Posted October 3, 2004 Posted October 3, 2004 Vote for Stella Artois. That will bring the country to it's knees Coudn't vote for company who sponcers tennis , worse than fox hunting goodness me. Quote
Mark Stanton Posted October 3, 2004 Posted October 3, 2004 tennis Oh that's it, just drag the thread down why don't ya Tennis Quote
Jan Coombes Posted October 3, 2004 Posted October 3, 2004 I have only been on a few Foxhunts following on a quad. I am neither for or against the ban. Maybe as I have never been at the front when the Fox is caught, but maybe it is not a good idea to do it for fun. The Anti protesters on the other hand are Total Wan**ers, chucking stuff, scaring horse's and people over one fox. Lets remember Foxes are vermin as are Pigeons (flying rats) I truly believe most people just don't know what a hunting is they get an idea in there head and think that’s not nice. The ones I have been on are really quite sociable (lots of totty) I think it’s about time that farming subsidies were abolished. So what if they have to compete against cheaper imports. Doesn’t every industry. You don’t see the local corner shop getting help from the government when tesco's opens a store near by and cant compete. Not sure where to start. Its companies like Tesco that have such buying power that are killing farmers, you have to grow what they want and sell it at a fixed price and they can turn round 2 days before delivery and say nope we don't want it. The subs farmers get are mainly tax, red diesel for tractor etc. I am not a farmer etc, but I do feel they have a hard time well some of them. I think this TV show on CH5 THE FARM is good for the countryside, there has just been a calf born. Quote
oldman Posted October 3, 2004 Posted October 3, 2004 Wot about this one then.............. Hang on,just clearing me throat de de...no wait a minute................................ didididera,didididera Quote
Monkeylegend Posted October 3, 2004 Posted October 3, 2004 But what's the Stella party's policy I think I've mentioned this before but my next door neighbour is called Stella but you wouldn't want her running the country and you DEFINATELY wouldn't want to drink her. Quote
jeff oakley Posted October 3, 2004 Posted October 3, 2004 There is a lot of good points on here and some not so good.The problem is that any goverment likes to give the impression of democracy, hence the foxhunting ban. I am niether for or against but this is a waste of time when there is so many more pressing issues (which I will not list) and seems more based in class than cruelty to many. But if we live in a democracy when the majority wants the death penalty why don't we get it? Back to the impression of democracy. The real problem is when the animal rights people have succeeded what next, well it is fishing again not somthing I do, but many others do. This goverment has knee jerked its way for years, remember the handgun ban. Businesses went bust people lost jobs, all to save lives, so the gun crime we now have would have been much worse, I don't think so. As others have said we have a hobby which hurts no one in genral, however when they have banned everything they don't like before they get to us what will stop them. The country gets the goverment it deserves, if we were not so apethetic things might be better. I may not like Blair and his team but unless people get off their arses and vote he will win. My biggest fear though is that threads like these split groups which is not what I feel our club is about. We should A*** around, hear more from Burt Jones, drink Stella, help each other to get cars on the road and leave the lying toerag poloticians from what ever party to bring the mood down, not do it for them. No offence meant to anyone at all, just my views ( no animals were hurt in writing this rubbish) Jeff Quote
Monkeylegend Posted October 3, 2004 Posted October 3, 2004 Wot about this one then.............. Hang on,just clearing me throat de de...no wait a minute................................ didididera,didididera The last one was better I think a foxes glacier mint might help your throat. I'll go and hunt for one. Quote
oldman Posted October 3, 2004 Posted October 3, 2004 Er Purple Haze?Or wos it All along the Watchtower. Quote
Jan Coombes Posted October 3, 2004 Posted October 3, 2004 foxes glacier mint Thats a point not seen them for a long time. Do think any think they got banded?? Quote
markg Posted October 3, 2004 Posted October 3, 2004 this was a decent anti-bliar thread, until everyones attention was diverted to foxhunting foxhunting is a small issue that causes a massive diversion of public attention whilst the labour party get on with running the country into the ground ! good days to bury bad news do not happen all the time so they are created Quote
JonnyBoy Posted October 4, 2004 Posted October 4, 2004 I'm pro 'not-anti' hunting btw isnt the constant bickering about Fox hunting simply an enourmous waste of time?! i dont give a ... about its ethics.. i'd rather not see it disappear, but all the intelligent arguement that goes into this fore and against debate could be put to something far more positive and beneficial. Face it, the England is loosing its heritage, its history.. and its people. People are emmigrating, I for one expect to get out when the time is right. I wonder how many *real* issues have been put to one side to run this political chess piece through the wash. The tax issue is BS too, punish those who earn more.. fair enough for the fat cats in BT and so on who earn stupid money for doing feck all, but what about hard working people that have worked their arses off for years to afford themselves the lifestyle they deserve, when, really, after tax, there not much better off than the local bin man.. wheres the logic? Let those who earn wealth be wealthy.. those that aren't, well i'm sorry.. but you should have tried harder. (a little unfair perhaps, but if you collect dole.. then there is a foreign person going to take the wage that you could be earning! ) My big thing is the influx of foreigers on our shores! I'm not going to get racist here.. but I quite easily could. And those ******g aussies earning our english pounds, only to take them back to aus to spend there! I dont do politics.. but thats my 2p worth Quote
James Posted October 4, 2004 Posted October 4, 2004 Frankly this bull$hit about them and us is contemptible. No one says you can't hunt, as long as you don't stand and gloat as a terrified, exhausted animal that has been run to ground by a pack of dogs is ripped to shreds. Maybe it doesn't happen every time, but tell me why that aspect of hunting is necessary? It's barbaric, and this is the 21st century, not the 19th. Jesus calm down for god sake your going to give yourself a hernia. What you fail to understand that foexes are cruel barbaric creatues themselves they will raid a chiken shed and kill all the chickens for sport and take one for food so really were not so diffrent are we? so when you want to harp on about the how cruel it is to hunt foxes bear that in mind! As I said I dont give a stuff about hunting oen way or the other but you want us country people to conform to your standards and way of life and then thionk its o.k to segregate us by calling us bumpkins as if we are all a lower life form and not worthy of your time. your opinion about point to point shows how little you understand about the situation a point to point is nothing more than a race organised by the hunt it does not in any way involve hunting in this race you do how ever to qualify for the point to point have been involved in hunting in the past but this shows how easily it is to pass judgement on a subject that you have liitle knowledge of without being in possesion of all the facts. Its also interseting how you compleatley ignored my point on foxes dying indroves on our roads every day yeah i sure a fox dosent mind being hit on the head by a car doing in exess of 60 miles anhour and its bones shattering with impact we like to ignore this because thats put down to an accident fox still has the same outcome though!!! In truth fox hunting is an easy target and it always will be but really are you worried about one single fox? if you are I sugest youve got to much time on your hands better go and buy some new shiny bits for the car and fit them!! Quote
James Posted October 4, 2004 Posted October 4, 2004 foxes glacier mint Thats a point not seen them for a long time. Do think any think they got banded?? no still about try woolworths Quote
James Posted October 4, 2004 Posted October 4, 2004 this was a decent anti-bliar thread, until everyones attention was diverted to foxhunting foxhunting is a small issue that causes a massive diversion of public attention whilst the labour party get on with running the country into the ground ! good days to bury bad news do not happen all the time so they are created Spot on this goverment are nunneys but then again they all are look at major he failed the test to become a bus conductor he ends up running the country Quote
neilwillis Posted October 4, 2004 Posted October 4, 2004 James, I am not ignorant of the ways of the country at all. I spent 10 years in the Cavalry, and was quite closely involved in hunting shooting and fishing. My argument is simple, persist in keeping things exactly as they are, and you will be ridden over roughshod by the electorate, who rightly or wrongly assume that hunting is barbaric. If you were prepared to make changes, the way of life of the country folk could go on for another 200 years without upsetting the moral majority. What got my goat before was this utter b*****k about them and us - what crud! You bought up the matter, I didn't, and if you do, you should be prepared to see the other side of the argument. I suppose because people get killed on the road, you'll be hunting townies next too? I am sorry, but nothing you have said holds water at all. And as for point to points merely being a race, I still don't see why that can't be used to replace hunting. People on horses charging around the countryside following hounds or people on horses charging around the countryside following a course. I am trying to point out that is the lack of willingness by the "get 'orf moi land" brigade that has led to this impasse in the first place. They for whatever reason thought that just because it was what they wanted, they could just ignore the silent majority - well, welcome to the real world! I'm not for the nanny state, I'm not actually that fussed about hunting either, but if you start talking bull$hit, don't be surprised if you get shot down in flames! I asked earlier who had actually been hunting, have you? I have, and we didn't have a great deal of success catching any foxes - they were far too clever for you country folk! I had much more fun leading the pack of bloodhounds a merry dance on Sennelager with the Weser Vale Hunt, so please, don't patronise someone who does see both sides of the issue! Nuff said? Quote
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