Richard (OldStager) Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, Man On The Clapham Omnibus said: I've been luckier than some of you chaps as far as joint and skeletal pains are concerned - I'm a devout coward when it comes to risking my body! A couple of years ago I found that I had a persistent pain in my right shoulder area and the view of a family medic was that it was a minor rotator cuff injury and that it would resolve itself in time. Take paracetamol and an anti-inflammatory such as ibuprofen, I was advised. In the ensuing month or so I took two ibuprofen tablets at bedtime every night and, sure enough, the pain began to ease. We went to Airbourne air display at Eastbourne on the weekend I stopped the ibuprofen and it was warm and breezy - a good way to get dehydrated. When I got home and had a well deserved pee I was alarmed to see a blood clot pop out, just the one, but no more during the evening. Next day I experienced what I can only describe as a pee/blood-clot explosion when the clot that was blocking the urethra burst out! Long story shorter, I saw my GP and was referred to a urologist, but just as an afterthought at the end of the consultation slot, I mentioned taking ibuprofen for a few weeks and I saw the light bulb come on in her head! Apparently it is an infrequent but documented side effect of extended use of ibuprofen, especially in men who've been operated on for an enlarged prostate by the TURP procedure. None of the hospital tests revealed anything except the gorgeous young Oriental female urologist commented as she peered into my bladder with the telescope she'd shoved in by the only available aperture, "...the bore of your prostate is a bit rough..." Now I thought that was rude at such a short acquaintance! Not had that particular complaint so far, but I did have something very similar involving erm 'the old man' shall we say, sadly the female nurses were not as you described 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CraigHew Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 22 minutes ago, OldStager said: I wish I had never mentioned him now, may we move on 😄 Bet he has a Caterham..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Had the AZ vaccine on Sunday afternoon Got up Monday morning with a splitting headache, aches and just generally feeling like I had a really bad case of man flu Lasted all day Monday. Started to feel better yesterday. Early night and feeling back to normal today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beggers Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I'm 37 and had early due to health reasons and it knocked me out from 12 hours afterwards until 24hours afterwards. Had 5 of the 8 main side effects listed in the paperwork (Oxford jab). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatman Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 And circling back to the initial questions from ths morning, I (finally) found the list of medicines that are contra-indicated for Pfizer-Biontec. https://www.sps.nhs.uk/articles/contraindications-and-cautions-summary-for-pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine/ I am hoping the same list is nearby for Oxford-AstraZeneca. Found it... https://www.sps.nhs.uk/articles/contraindications-and-cautions-summary-for-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard (OldStager) Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, Blatman said: And circling back to the initial questions from ths morning, I (finally) found the list of medicines that are contra-indicated for Pfizer-Biontec. https://www.sps.nhs.uk/articles/contraindications-and-cautions-summary-for-pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine/ I am hoping the same list is nearby for Oxford-AstraZeneca. Found it... https://www.sps.nhs.uk/articles/contraindications-and-cautions-summary-for-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine/ Good find, and unless I missed it, I appear to be all ok for it so far. Both appear to be suitable for me despite allergies as well, and the ones were it's not suitable, I don't have as far as I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff oakley Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Every person is different. I expected to have a reaction as I tend if bitten by an insect to get swelling around the bite and have had a very sore arm from the Flu jab. I had nothing. I spoke with my daughter who told me that it did not mean it was not working, as I too had read that the greater the reaction the better it was. Which is not true. Her and a couple of colleagues have a view that when people are ringing GP's following their injection having had a reaction, that maybe they are being told that like the flu jab reactions, this is good as it means your body is taking action. As this vaccine works differently that clearly is not true, but it might explain why this appears to have become an internet myth. There are so many experts and the man who has the Youtube channel is pretty good in many ways, however he speaks for himself, not the NHS. They have been woeful in this area. You have the Live conferences where people switch off after the first 5 PowerPoint slides as it is too technical. All they need is a dumbed down version suitable for the public who now have a short attention span from someone they will believe, get Kim Kardashian to present it as they will believe her more than a medic I suspect. Whatever the overwhelming research and data that is coming back shows beyond a shadow of doubt it is effective and safe, which ever one you get that we are using 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Captain Colonial said: Which goes to show the lack of clarity - I’ve been on weekly methotrexate tablets with the same consultant since about 1995 and he gave me different advice - which one’s right? 🤔 I guess they take everybody on a case by case basis - reviewing the stability of medication and the level. If you've been on the tablets since 1995 it's evidently working consistently for you 👍, so probably safe to take a short break. The biologic (Imraldi) I'm on may be a bit more risky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard (OldStager) Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 According to Sky News, the EU medical agency will release a statement at 3pm today on the Oxford AZ vaccine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SootySport Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 They are continuing vaccinations from today in most of the EU. How can they all get it all wrong, probably taking too much notice of Facebook and other social media carp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatman Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, SootySport said: They are continuing vaccinations from today in most of the EU. How can they all get it all wrong, probably taking too much notice of Facebook and other social media carp. It's not wrong. It follows anti-UK sentiment instead of medical advice. Politicians, like reporters, will never let the truth get in the way... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Blatman said: It's not wrong. It follows anti-UK sentiment instead of medical advice. Politicians, like reporters, will never let the truth get in the way... Whether anti UK sentiment or not, it does seem to be 100% political. Every scientific analysis I've read so far, seems to say the same thing, the two main causes of death being quoted as the reason for halting the vaccines use, at no point exceeded the normal probabilities of occurrence, regardless of whether you'd had the vaccine or not. It seems to be just a desperately sad coincidence, but would have taken those unfortunate people anyway. Which kind of makes it even more repellent when politicians try and twist it for their own ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SootySport Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Its no wonder the Chezhs, Slovaks and Poles have bought in Chinese vaccines, they must be desperate using unproven vaccines, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatman Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Secretary said: Whether anti UK sentiment or not, it does seem to be 100% political. Every scientific analysis I've read so far, seems to say the same thing, the two main causes of death being quoted as the reason for halting the vaccines use, at no point exceeded the normal probabilities of occurrence, regardless of whether you'd had the vaccine or not. It seems to be just a desperately sad coincidence, but would have taken those unfortunate people anyway. Which kind of makes it even more repellent when politicians try and twist it for their own ends. Yup, there is every chance that had the unfortunate people caught a cold or flu or some other infection that triggered their immune system, these events would have occured anyway. Of course I am sssuming that it is the immune response that is responsible but to me that seems like a logical sequence of events. So be it an immune response to a vaccine or to a "normal" infection, the outcome would be the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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