corsechris Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Steve (sdh2903) said: Indeed, yet we don't tend to vilify those people in the media on a near daily basis. What a two faced species we are. That speaks to my second paragraph I feel... But, while MSM may not be picking on certain groups, plenty of folk do. MSM go for clicks/views it seems. Is there any decent journalism left out there I wonder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenh Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Will someone satisfy my curiosity? What is MSM? I've tried Googling it, and all I get is lots of items about herbal remedies for joint pain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard (OldStager) Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Main Stream Media. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard (OldStager) Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 13 minutes ago, Richard (OldStager) said: Main Stream Media. Or, depending on your point of view. Mainly Spouting Mumbojumbo. ETA Having now googled MSM , I think I could do with some myself these days 😄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_l Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 5 hours ago, AdamR said: Told myself I wouldn't post in here again... but in the interests of interesting discussion... Before you leave this thread forever, relating to a conversation a while ago about obesity and the virus. I picked up on the use of the word 'infectobesity' , which sounds far too 'Sharknado' to me, but is being bandied about by some highly qualified people. Scientists can't explain the post 1980's global obesity surge completely using lifestyles, they hypothesised that a virus may have contributed. The association has been found in humans, as well as a number of different animal species, but how significant is yet to be decided. Come to think of it, I was really slim until the 1980's 😂 Soon be just car time again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatman Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 4 hours ago, jim_l said: University of Utah neurobiologist Jason Shepherd - he finds a connection between viral infections and neurodegenerative conditions such as Parkinson’s to be plausible, because “anything that can trigger an inflammatory response in the brain can be a trigger for subsequent neurodegeneration.” Brings to mind that Chicken Pox in childhood can lead to shingles later in life because the chicken pox virus, though dormant, stays with us for life. I know two people that have had shingles, one of them badly affected but fully recovered, one of them long term and almost life-changing. I've only just found out there is a vaccine (well 2 actually) available so I'll be talking to my GP about that as I've had Chicken Pox at least twice in my childhood, as well as mumps, german measles and glandular fever. The joys of a fairly large north London primary school, but also the joys of a well prepared immune system 'cos you don't want to catch any of those as a grown up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsechris Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 I must have natural immunity to that one (infectobesity) - I've always been a fat b******d. ETA had a couple of minor outbreaks of Shingles in the past. Didn't now there was a vaccine. Thankfully both episodes where incredibly mild and short-lived compared to most. My mum suffered badly with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man On The Clapham Omnibus Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 I had shingles in 2003 and it was moderately painful, but mine was the classic rash on the body. My daughter had it in her hair (scalp) and perilously close to her eye. My wife had hers on one arm. It doesn't pop up in a predictable area and some can be really nasty. The shingles vaccine is given between ages 70-79 and only to those who can tolerate a live vaccine. I never had mumps as a child but in the usual way it came to me from my then infant daughter when I was in my thirties. Luckily I didn't get orchitis (Google) but I did develop wobbly wattles through swelling of my neck. They resolved eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 5 hours ago, Steve (sdh2903) said: Indeed, yet we don't tend to vilify those people in the media on a near daily basis. What a two faced species we are. Yes but no one got ill from passive-donut eating! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve (sdh2903) Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 43 minutes ago, Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Secretary said: Yes but no one got ill from passive-donut eating! Too much donut eating triples your chances of being hospitalised with covid! But imagine if there were a nightly campaign against the chubsters, smokers, drinkers, drug users. The woke brigade would have a field day. Fat lives matter would be the cry 😂 But someone who makes a choice to not take up a vaccine that was rushed to production and deployment thats still operating under emergency approval for a virus that (for some age groups) has an absolute minute chance of making them seriously ill or worse is fair game to smear and ridicule In the media? Doesn't sound especially fair to me. And I'm not talking about nanobot fearing, 5g tinfoil hat wearers. I'm talking about people who've looked at the data and made a choice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.C Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 That's true Steve ,if you don't follow the masses your an out cast. When the virus was first announced little was made of it. 90% of people were going to be unaffected. Flu like symptom's or nothing at all. That's what i based my need for a vaccine on. Then it spiralled out of control , media frenzy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Talking of shingles...saw a friend the other day who has recently had Covid along with a couple of his friends.. One of the friends in his fifties had had shingles a number of years ago and was left with a big rash all down his left hand side from under arm to waist area.. He had Covid fairly badly but was fine after a week or so... however the rash disappeared and two months later has still not come back!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatman Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 5 hours ago, Man On The Clapham Omnibus said: The shingles vaccine is given between ages 70-79 and only to those who can tolerate a live vaccine. Only one of the two is a live vaccine. But yes I'm too young to have it. That hasn't happened for a while... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man On The Clapham Omnibus Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Now you mention it Blatters, I seem to remember reading about a new two-shot one as my Good Lady cannot have live vaccines and her GP said that when her turn comes round for the shingles one she must decline. Time flies when you're having fun... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatman Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Yeah the non-live vaccine is a two shot piece if I remember what I read correctly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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