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Left a 9.30 and just home now 270 miles. Left in lovely autumn sunshine and made a bad decision to go west !!!! raining and windy at Fort William where I fuelled up then onto the Corran ferry and then along the loch and mountain side, a single track road with sheep and cattle on it and so much water a boat would have been better, but so enjoyable. At the mallaig road I turned back towards Fort William and you could see the snow line just under the clouds. Back along loch laggan with the weather brightening and stopped for a fish supper in aviemore then home. Here’s a few pictures from today

Took a early morning run to my old college, Harper Adam’s in Newport Shropshire. Place has changed quite a bit since I was there many moons ago! The old part still looking great.

New shoes and rims!

I picked up Andrew in the petrol station and the red arrows soon arrived, followed by Dave E shortly after. Luke and Rob Meeting at Hassop we had our first breakfast of the day in the ambirad heated outside area, overlooking the cars. Soon on the road, we made our way towards Winnats Pass, the autumn sunshine catching the colours of the trees beautifully. Approaching Winnats Pass The roads were quiet now that South Yorkshire is in tier 3 lockdown. I was quite licking my lips thinking of the run we would get up the Pass. With no traffic behind us I held the start and.... damn, there was very soon a constant stream of traffic on the Pass, but it was fun at the beginning. Up to the junction We had a great run for the rest of the way Passing the 'Cathedral of the Peak' the pretty, oversized church in Tideswell, I pointed it out in case you missed it! Steady through the village And back to it It was a lovely run, the roads were amazingly dry and we soon arrived at The Fountain Cafe, Bonsall where I had booked a table in the covered outdoor seating area. We at least had shelter from the cold wind, at the time of booking the forecast was showers so I thought we would be dry too. In fact the day never even looked like rain would arrive, it was sun, sun, sun. The Fountain puddle parking Did I just say the roads were dry? mmm yes, I never mentioned clean though did I? Wheel arch envy enabled. After a second breakfast (I never realised that the lunch menu would not be on yet did I?) it got as messy as a Peak District wheel arch at the cafe, CAKES ARRIVED! The Pear and Ginger cake tasted a bit like Parkin, very moist and the chocolate fudge cake had real cream on the topping, home baked heaven. I can't speak for Dave's almond and apple crumble but when his phone rang and he left the table it nearly got stolen. So here is hoping that Rob's new horse box will not be too 'expensively deer' and Dave will not be 'beaten by the fools experience' oh such a laugh, it must be the petrol fumes. Thanks guys for a most excellent day out and hope to see you all again very soon.

Hi everyone. Just popped in to say hello. We have just purchased our first Westfield. We are really happy with it and are looking forward to meeting other members and getting out with the club around Derbyshire. Thanks Ian & Nikki.

A wee 270 mile jaunt out , here’s a couple before I hit the rain lol

A cracking day out again, thanks Julie! As expected, Colleen did indeed buy yet another form of horse transport.... A deep breath, fake smile applied and another row averted! Now to decide on my compensation 😂😂

Thanks again Julie. Brilliant day out in the sunshine. 198 miles. Nothing better. Parked car in garage and it rained within half an hour 😀

Nice car ! , We'll look forward to seeing you in the Peaks once this Covid 19 chaos reduces!

Thank you everyone for the warm welcome. We are looking forward to meeting you. Ian & Nikki.

Greetings from Clowneish. Best colour too.

welcome and nice colour!

best colour too 👍

Many thanks ... you are a star ⭐

@Andy_R The spacer that we have is 18mm high and the outside diameter is 33mm. The hole in the middle will be the size of your securing bolt. Cut a slot in it so that it slides in position past the wires, otherwise you will have to undo all the wiring to the lamp, so it will be C shaped. Ours is made of brass that has been laquered, you could try stainless but mild steel will rust. Other materials may suit you like nylon or plastic.

Welcome, that’s a lovely looking car hope you enjoy her

Her first album was recorded at a folk festival on a walkman by one of the founders of the label 'cooking vinyl' Karen Michelle Johnston used a stage name as it alluded to being 'shell shocked' ....

Your ears must have been burning today @Ian Littlewood. I was telling everyone that I have you two waiting in the wings to come out with us. The rule of 6 is a bit of a necessary evil at the mo. Looking forward to meeting you both.

Sorted now 👍

Of which 40% are rented either through private landlords, councils or housing associations. So the cost will be bourn by a landlord rather than the occupiers. Also what percentage of those 2.5 million houses were built or have been extended in the last 20 years so already have interlinked detection installed? £400 is the typical cost of having a tradesperson install the detectors. A typical radio interlinked pair is between £100-£150 to buy and most competent diy’rs should be able to fit their own. So to answer your question, yes I think the cost is proportionate to the risk/ outcome.

From rubber soul

Welcome!

Welcome from another Peaks regular, looking forward to meeting you 👍

Welcome, no doubt will catch you out and about soon on a peaks run 😁

from a cool, but sunny and dry, Scotland. Very nice car. Enjoy.

Not sure I agree, I think the risk for a communicable disease is: The shop being open * the number of people that go to the shop * the amount of time they spend in the shop Having said that I do think transient passing in shops seems unlikely to be a big factor.

So to the obvious link..... .... there has been many covers, many great and some good 'alternative' versions too BUT more bad ones. There is something Sinatra delivers that none can.

Way Down to Making My Way

But not influential enough to be able to persuade MP's to vote for it and/or have the jutzpa to defy the part whips for the good of the public? And the MP's who may have wanted to vote for it but were put off by a 3 line whip were themselves unable to make a persuasive case to their party for voting the bill through? I'm guessing the landlords involved weren't so much "tory MP landlords", the inference I took to mean many Tory MP's own and rent properties to supplement their income and feeds in to the "fat-cat" narrative, but more likely the landlords were the large construction industry, housing association and local council landlords who would definitely lobby their MP's to vote against. That's not to say that Tory (or indeed Labour) MP's don't sit on the boards of these companies/charities. I happen to know of 1 London MP of a Labour constituency who has influence within a large housing conglomerate. BUT my point is they are singular voices in these organisations rather than dictatorial leaders with the ability to force through anything they want. To me it sounds like this law would have meant that the Grenfell Tower disaster would automatically have been the "fault" of the local council. Whilst convenient, I don't see how that is fair, reasonable or proportionate. I am not sure it is possible to make a landlord (private, corporate, charity or local authority) responsible for the actions of tenants and even if it was possible, it will be policed once every 5 years, assuming the landlords (especially the big ones) actually get round to it. And lets face it the system might pass inspection at 10am on Monday and by 10.30 the kitchen detector has been removed or bypassed because it goes off when one burns the toast, an irritation that many of us live with and accept and that many others will take action to avoid. And to be clear here, I'm not against improved fire safety, of course not. But there is far more to this that "fat-cat Tory MP's" voting solely in their own interests.

You cannot beat live music one think my kids have got from me. They even dragged me to see Bastille the other year who were really good live.

Ok Vikings to Iceland (who claim to be the true descendants) discovered this band while there - simply amazing rock/blues voice

From one viking metal to another... Saw these live a few years ago. Awesome show. They were actually better than the main act!

The revised Bill has been put together by influential people from the fire safety industry for a start, not some civil servant. Groups such as The British Automatic Fire Sprinkler Association, Building Research Establishment, Fire Protection Association to name but a few have had input along with consultation from every fire and rescue service in the UK. Together, they know considerably more about this subject than the whole of the Tory party, who incidentally all voted this down. Every single one. There were a few independents in there too but not one Labour MP. That could be the fact that Labour tabled the motion to make this bill law in the first place. The bill wouldn't have forced the landlords to fit smoke detection, That's already legislation. And you would think with it being law, that it would all be in place. What we have found is quite the opposite. The majority of our work involves outraged and incomplete fire detection systems in residential buildings. Luckily, we have no jurisdiction beyond the front door of anyone's house. What the bill would have done was force landlords to identify themselves as a responsible person to the Fire and Rescue authority and therefore become liable in the eyes of the law for any loss of life if a building they owned caught fire. That didn't sit comfortably with them and was the main sticking point in getting the bill passed. I have been privy to a list of MP/landlords but it's not for public consumption so I'm afraid you'll just have to take my word on that. It's not all of them, but it is a considerable number. If you have a trustworthy search engine, it will be available.

Wakey wakey! 🙂

Yeah - assuming Dave’s forum name gives away our joint birth year then 😁

You're both old!!!

I was there too!!! (Both weekends)

Lilac is close to blue then!

Can’t think of a decent link but check out Odd Morris - Lilac Leaves @Dave (OnliestSmeg) - Manchester AO 👍

Took the car for its first real run out today. Early start to get past Loch lomond before all the camper vans wake up. The prettiest Road to nowhere Castle stalker

A chilly run out to Cerne Abbas before the clouds came.

Pooh woke up that morning, and, for reasons that he didn't entirely understand, couldn't stop the tears from coming. He sat there in bed, his little body shaking, and he cried, and cried, and cried. Amidst his sobs, the phone rang. It was Piglet. "Oh Piglet," said Pooh, between sobs, in response to his friend's gentle enquiry as to how he was doing. "I just feel so Sad. So, so, Sad, almost like I might not ever be happy again. And I know that I shouldn't be feeling like this. I know there are so many people who have it worse off than me, and so I really have no right to be crying, with my lovely house, and my lovely garden, and the lovely woods all around me. But oh, Piglet: I am just SO Sad." Piglet was silent for a while, as Pooh's ragged sobbing filled the space between them. Then, as the sobs turned to gasps, he said, kindly: "You know, it isn't a competition." "What isn't a competition?" asked a confused sounding Pooh. "Sadness. Fear. Grief," said Piglet. "It's a mistake we often make, all of us. To think that, because there are people who are worse off than us, that that somehow invalidates how we are feeling. But that simply isn't true. You have as much right to feel unhappy as the next person; and, Pooh - and this is the really important bit - you also have just as much right to get the help that you need." "Help? What help?" asked Pooh. "I don't need help, Piglet. "Do I?" Pooh and Piglet talked for a long time, and Piglet suggested to Pooh some people that he might be able to call to talk to, because when you are feeling Sad, one of the most important things is not to let all of the Sad become trapped inside you, but instead to make sure that you have someone who can help you, who can talk through with you how the Sad is making you feeling, and some of the things that might be able to be done to support you with that. What's more, Piglet reminded Pooh that this support is there for absolutely everyone, that there isn't a minimum level of Sad that you have to be feeling before you qualify to speak to someone. Finally, Piglet asked Pooh to open his window and look up at the sky, and Pooh did so. "You see that sky?" Piglet asked his friend. "Do you see the blues and the golds and that big fluffy cloud that looks like a sheep eating a carrot?" Pooh looked, and he could indeed see the blues and the golds and the big fluffy cloud that looked like a sheep eating a carrot. "You and I," continued Piglet, "we are both under that same sky. And so, whenever the Sad comes, I want you to look up at that sky, and know that, however far apart we might be physically...we are also, at the same time, together. Perhaps, more together than we have ever been before." "Do you think this will ever end?" asked Pooh in a small voice. "This too shall pass," confirmed Piglet. "And I promise you, one day, you and I shall once again sit together, close enough to touch, sharing a little smackerel of something...under that blue gold sky." We all need a piglet in our lives.

Nice drive up the Burway (single track) road up and over the Long Mynd with @CosKev this week. Stunning views, sheep, wild horses and hang gliders...

Live in the North West and have 2 close friends Covid positive , both poorly and one in hospital. Brings home a bit the debate on what's acceptable and what's not.