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@Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Secretary will be pleased to know that during my shielding, I have finally moved the cooling fan on The Wench from in front of the radiator to flush behind it and configured it to pull. This is due to a severe “tutting” I received from him a while back. 😄

I have friends who live in the States and he was a DEA agent before it became Homelands security. There are thousands of Black people who work in law enforcement over there and many whites as well as Latino and Asians. They are not racists and do their best to uphold law and order under very difficult circumstances. What happen to George Floyd was not right, he died needlessly and once again people like Al Sharpton are quick to pour fuel on the fire, as he has done in the past. Yet with all his rhetoric he and many others have been silent about the deaths of several Black officers during the riots and looting which has followed. Nothing shows your solidarity with a cause like running away from a shop with a flat screen TV under your arm. There is an underclass of poor in the States of all races but it is a land of opportunity for those who have a chance. Take Obama, Father a Kenyan who married a white woman in Hawaii who then got a scholarship to Harvard Law School. They split up and she remarried an Indonesian and went to live in Indonesia. They returned but by then his father could afford to send him to a good school and he followed his father into Law after going to Harvard. He was the first Black, or to be more accurate, mixed race US president. The American dream. Many from the underclass drag themselves up and make a success others become the residents of trailer parks and areas of deprivation, just like over here, except we have a good system of support for those who want it, need it and are willing to take it. Things are far worse in the US. As Blatman points out black on black killings are huge, much gang related which is ignored by many as are the reasons so many fall into crime as do young latinos asians, Latino's and whites. As my friend said, when he came back and was taking off his two guns that he wore to work, life is cheap for many involved in drugs but rewards are huge, so you assume every suspect is armed or high on angel dust and is out to kill you. I am like many I have no answers but when I see people joining in with what is the latest social media event, with little understanding of what bandwagon they are jumping on it is worrying. We need change but after they have put down their cardboard signs and moved on to the next one, remember the kidnapped girls in Africa, about two weeks before the facebook pictures changed, it will still be the same unless all races change. Nothing can justify the rioting and looting and no one can justify George Floyds death or support the officers involved. As for the 75 year old, what we saw looked awful but I have not seen the full version, was he refusing to move when told to? If so how do police move him? Our police will push people but most will not fall and bash their heads. I also noted as soon as the man was down one officer was calling for medical assistance, hard to say on what I have seen and read. Over here the video of a young black man sending a boris bike into a police horse which then bolts and the rider hits a traffic light before the horse then hits a woman protester injuring both again how is that helping ? Can anyone justify that? We are in sad times.

Murder requires no redefining. His murder was needless. George Floyd was already under the control of 4 armed officers, handcuffed behind his back, before ex-Minneapolis officer Derek Chauvin pressed his knee on George Floyd's neck for nearly nine minutes leading to his death by asphyxiation. Chauvin will make his first court appearance today charged with second-degree murder. The other three officers involved in Floyd's death -- Thomas Lane, J. Alexander Kueng and Tou Thao -- were charged with aiding and abetting second-degree murder and aiding and abetting second-degree manslaughter.

Phoned MSV this morning and spoke to a young lady.. she said due to them all working from home they can't do the group booking thing.. I said they did a couple of weeks ago? Tried to speak to someone else but got no joy. Have given them a bit of an explanation and a list of names in an email and she said she would try circulating it to the rest of the crew. Awaiting reply..

Four Westfields at the beach this morning.

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Have a great day @RobH72

Happy birthday Honda Boy

First run since 1st March. Nice at New Brighton.

Luke Wyatt thanks

Sold to Sysman84 Will have to see what else I can flog you

You have surpassed yourself, I bow down before you!

Having visited America on several occasions and also done a 1000 mile road trip last year from Chicago to Memphis late last year which shows you some interesting sights, some good, some scarey. It's a way different place to the UK or Europe and we sometimes think it's the same as the language is the same. But how they go about things and their attitude to law enforcement, makes me understand some of what went on. I visited a family of my friend I was travelling with, so that gave me a bit more insite. Guns are all to common, a lot of people use them and it's part of their culture. So I'm standing way back from it as we live in such a different world. it's America's problem and for them to deal with. Quite why in the middle of this COVID 19 anyone wants to kick off about this is beyond me. Unless of course it's the usual Rent a Mob out to cause trouble

corsechris and jim_ Thanks I am glad we got that straight.

FWIW, that's the intent I read from your post, which was why I 'liked' it. Pretty much every culture, creed and race has some dark **** in their past - it's just human nature. The sad truth is, we are often pretty brutal and cruel animals given the 'right' circumstances. The veneer of civilisation is pretty damned thin at times and you don't need to rub too hard to get through to the underlying nature.

happy birthday!

Happy Birthday Rob!

Happy Birthday 🥳. Looking forward to seeing your new car! Out soon hopefully. Andrew

how the F does 'working' auto spell to 'boring' ??

Saw you at the Hinderton crossroads on the Chester High Road. Good day for it 👍

Addition to my previous post : a set of motion pictures from saturday with comprasion of effort on steering wheel without , and with Traction Control (low intervention of TC set) :

Thanks all, hoping it goes to a good home. I've really enjoyed it, and all the help I've had from club. I'll be back on here with my next build for sure. Cheers Gary

Again we agree on everything Mr Floyd's treatment was harsh, his death an unfortunate tragedy. As noted by my esteemed colleague the cops will hear "police brutality" shouted long and loud every time they make a strong take down and of course sometimes a strong take down is the only way, especially when it is very likely the suspect is armed and is MORE likely to use a weapon than not when confronted by law enforcement. From what I have read, the initial autopsy carried out by (I assume) the state or county coroner found Mr Floyd expired from a heart attack. He was at the time of his detention, high on fentanyl and had meth-amphetamine in his system. He was a big guy, a known criminal who had just committed a suspected further offence. I'm betting he wasn't going to come quietly and given his physical size and criminality he was always going to be a handful if he chose to resist. As above, I am not trying to excuse his treatment at the hands of law enforcement but there must be some thought given to his chosen lifestyle and his likely behavior when told to stop by police. I was doing a bit more research on this (some of you will know I like to examine the legal side for a lot of this stuff...) and I came across this FBI analysis of homicides in the USA from 2017. https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls Blacks killed by blacks - 2627. Blacks killed by whites - 264. Sadly the stats don't say how many of either statistic were by law enforcement though murder suggests that "legitimate shootings" would not make it into the stats whereas a cop unlawfully killing someone would, but I can't verify that at the moment. I'm betting the number of black people killed by white law enforcement makes up a small number of an already small number. Again, I am not trying to justify anything. I am looking at the facts and figures presented by a trusted source. The index page from which the above sheet can be found is here and gives a lot more tables to look at: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/topic-pages/expanded-homicide

Right! That’s your entire photo upload quota used up in a single hit! 🤣 But 40p a litre... thems were the days