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Winnats Pass....with a front camera that needed a clean, it wasn't that murky

So as you know we are now a proud sponsor and we are pleased to offer all WSCC members a 12% discount on the WHOLE range of Cartek Electronics, including their IVA freindly fog light unit. All you will need to do is follow this LINK, and use WSCCCAR as the discount code. Instructions for use : When you have added your products to your cart, click on the Grey box where it shows your total at the top, then click view cart, you will then see an area to add your discount code. Note : This code is not a once use only, for all WSCC members you can use it each time you purchase Cartek from us. If you have any questions about Cartek parts, delivery time or anything at all, please fire away

Please welcome our newest club sponsor Hawke Motorsport. Please visit their website Hawke Motorsport and check out their products. They offer a wide range of products which should suit members needs of all kinds. Look out for their postings and special offers to us. If there is anything that you need but dont see it, please contact them to ask if they can help. Best wishes John

Many thanks for the introduction It is a pleasure to be part of such an active and friendly club. We hope that we can, not only provide key products to your members at great prices but also become an asset to the club as well. Please feel free to browse our site, if there is something you need that you cant see then please let us know and we will get a price for you. Please do not hesitate to ask any questions about us, or about the products we sell either via email (sales@hawkemotorsport.co.uk) or through the PM system on here.. or even Just reply to this thread

I have got this kit tucked under the seat, having been stranded on a motorway. https://www.venhill.co.uk/cables-amp-components/universal-cable-kits/throttle-cable-kits/roadside-cable-repair-kit-vwk001.html

Don't recognise many places in your great pics but will always remember a place that serves a big sausage roll!🤤

Apologies @Julie Hall - Peak District AO I was due to attend but family emergency changed plans early this morning, I meant to let you know but one thing led to another. Looks like you all had a good day though. I’ll be at the next run out. I need to do winnats pass as last time I was sat in a beer garden looking at it, waiting for the truck of shame.

Julie you take the best photos . You've hidden all the dirt on my car. It even looks shiny ! Glen's rearward shots came out really well even though i thought the first shot was a hidden speed camera ! Thank you for another brilliant run out.

I'm on the lookout for a new camper-van and saw this, I was wondering if anyone has a similar one for sale? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-africa-50508590/how-an-ethiopian-built-a-three-bedroom-home-in-a-truck

Halfway down Page 1 is the photo of the flooded yard at work that we spoke about @Trevturtle and below is inside the building @neptune

Ok latest patch applied - any better @CosKev?

I fit the throttle cable starting at the throttle bodies finishing at the pedal set at the fully closed position first and then set the pedal stop bolt at WOT. I sealed the side panels where they go over the top chassis rail with silicone and then used '3 rib' draft excluder 3 rib all around the pedal box cover to seal against the chassis and scuttle, seems to work reasonably well.

Didn’t have enough time to get to the Peak District today but managed a good 2 hrs out .The mudguards I made up the other week are proving a great addition ,a nice dry arm again with no doors.

It's German Sausage Time! fill your boots with that statement @IanK (Bagpuss) 🤩 Seriously though, GBS are having their usual BBQ and open day, which in December is put on by their German salesman. Authentic German food freshly cooked in front of you with plenty to drink for the passengers too. The usual home baked fayre is on offer inside from the lovely GBS ladies. The cars will be on show, the kit spares shop will be open and you can tour around the factory too. Meet at McDonalds, Ollerton at 9.30am in any kind of car you choose, there is not a run out and GBS is only a couple of miles away in a 30 mph zone. Meet us there if you prefer, it opens from 10am-2pm.

Maybe if we all signed? https://www.change.org/p/motorsport-uk-force-motorsport-uk-to-lower-license-fees?recruiter=50709841&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_initial&utm_term=psf_combo_share_initial&recruited_by_id=35625910-9fda-0130-78ab-3c764e049b10&utm_content=fht-19092540-en-gb%3Av12

Not my words... but an interesting analogy for taxes, using beer. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For those of you reciting the 'Tories defend the rich' argument, read this. It's worth it, I assure you. Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to £100... If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this... The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing. The fifth would pay £1. The sixth would pay £3. The seventh would pay £7.. The eighth would pay £12. The ninth would pay £18. The tenth man (the richest) would pay £59. So, that's what they decided to do.. The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve ball. "Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by £20". Drinks for the ten men would now cost just £80. The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes. So the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men? The paying customers? How could they divide the £20 windfall so that everyone would get his fair share? They realised that £20 divided by six is £3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by a higher percentage the poorer he was, to follow the principle of the tax system they had been using, and he proceeded to work out the amounts he suggested that each should now pay. And so the fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% saving). The sixth now paid £2 instead of £3 (33% saving). The seventh now paid £5 instead of £7 (28% saving). The eighth now paid £9 instead of £12 (25% saving). The ninth now paid £14 instead of £18 (22% saving). The tenth now paid £49 instead of £59 (16% saving). Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But, once outside the bar, the men began to compare their savings. "I only got a pound out of the £20 saving," declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man,"but he got £10!" "Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a pound too. It's unfair that he got ten times more benefit than me!" "That's true!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get £10 back, when I got only £2? The wealthy get all the breaks!" "Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison, "we didn't get anything at all. This new tax system exploits the poor!" The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up. The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had their beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill! And that, boys and girls, journalists and government ministers, is how our tax system works. The people who already pay the highest taxes will naturally get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas, where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier. David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D. Professor of Economics.

Everyone needs a spare MX5 in the garage!

Thankyou very much Geoffrey, I did speak to the old fella some time ago and he said come and see them so can't see it being a problem, swimbo can have a day out in Southport if nothing else

Welcome @Hawkemotorsport

Sorry to have missed this one. Looks like you all had a good time though. I was working on the Westfield getting it ready for next Spring. See you all soon, Bill

Welcome @Hawkemotorsport - Just down the road from me

I’m not quite sure why you’re having trouble. You can send up to 1.5m max with Parcelforce and a combined length and girth of 3m. I've sent two bonnets with them now.

Welcome @Hawkemotorsport

To paraphrase a French saying 'even a stopped clock tells the truth twice a day'.

👍 Instant now thanks🤡

Happy belated birthday @Simon Westwood - Westfield Sportscars Ltd I hope you had a great day!

...intercourse?

I would have looked up to say hello to him, but the sun was in my eyes 😁 @OrangeCrush - Tango Man must have been cold he is sat next to the fire

For discussion. I'm not trying to argue with or insult anyone... Working class people want something "better". They decide to haul themselves up by pursuing better education and better employment and ultimately working for or owning and running successful businesses. And then vote Labour because of working class "tradition". I don't understand that at all. There are many who would like to improve their lot by becoming business owners or being promoted to such positions but lack drive or ambition or enough education to do so. BUT drive and ambition also require an environment that will help foster them. The Tories generally initiate policy that favours business. EVERYONE who works, be they CEO or tea boy should recognise that if the business has more money left after tax, business rates and all the other expenses of running a business (and they are extensive) then they should all benefit in some way with improved salaries or improved working conditions or bonuses or "something". The problem, as I see it, is that many business owners see the extra profit as theirs and do not share equally with their employees. Some keep it. Some re-invest in the business which is good but most people don't see this as a benefit to them which is a shame. What we want is a bit more money in our pocket. Re-investing in new computers and office chairs is nice but it doesn't help with this months mortgage payments. But I digress... It is then a simple leap to the argument that the Tories make policies to line the pockets of the fat cats whilst ignoring the "poor". I say the policies are sound, it's the Board of Directors that need a little education. But it's their train set. They can play with it any way they want and they can take it home with them if they want. Yes the "trickle down of wealth" which is often bandied about does work but often not in the immediate way we would hope. I am sure the hope is that we all immediately have an extra few quid in our pockets. It just doesn't work like that and it has nothing to do with Government business policy. The Labour Party jump on the "Tories favour the rich" because they know that there are millions of people who still believe in the class system and who think of themselves as the "working class" and Labour play in to that. They also go after minorities for the same reasoning. Get enough small groups under the same banner and suddenly it's a big group (Instinction Rebellion for example). But whilst they are under the same banner they aren't all looking in the same direction and that's a problem when power is granted. Labour policy seems to me to be that if the companies can't behave "responsibly" towards their employees then they will do it by imposing more tax and spending the revenue on "everybody" in the guise of "improved public services that benefit everybody". The trouble is that most workers don't consume a great deal of public service (I am excluding the NHS here which is sacrosanct) and many of the services thought of as public are in fact private, like buses and trains, gas, electricity and water, and even more are locally funded by council tax like libraries, refuse collection, road repairs and so forth. So with Labour the workers still don't get pay rises or bonuses or improved conditions because the company can't afford it because of the tax burden. The beneficiaries of the improved public service funding is perceived as benefiting only those without jobs (yes they need help and I am not saying we should not help those less fortunate than us) and this creates an imagined imbalance where we hear every day that "I'd be better off on the dole". This is not true of course but the perception is exactly that. With a Labour government if staff were to leave a job to start their own business in order to improve their lot, the tax burden is a real obstacle should they begin to become even moderately successful. And as soon as anyone is even slightly "successful" there are plenty who see the head of a small business as "millionaires" and immediately label them as fat cats just because they see them in a nice Audi or BMW (probably leased) and wear a suit to work. I can't help with the question of who to vote for. I struggle with Labour because of the simple fact that Corbyn is the most left wing leader of a party that we have seen for a long time. Nationalising anything that has been privatised would cost billions and would likely drive service levels back to the 60's. Beeching anybody? And nationalising broadband is a thin and somewhat laughable attempt at vote grabbing. He may well have said free PG Tips for everyone. Decimating ANY multi-billion pound industry just because you can and you have a parliamentary majority is not a good idea and anyone who can't see that should not be allowed to vote! That said, the promise of "taking back control of [insert industry name here]" would undoubtedly get shelved after a commission investigating the feasibility of nationalising [insert industry name here] found out that we can't afford it anyway, so the revenue raised from more tax is spent on feasibility studies that tell us the bleeding obvious and nothing changes except that all the money has gone to politicians, their cronies in quango's, and government appointed accountants/lawyers/Judges who ran the feasibility study. So who is benefitting from Labour policies? Politicians, their cronies in quango's, and government appointed accountants/lawyers/Judges. The same is true for the Tories of course it's just that Labour seem to be able to get away with it, at least to my eyes. The Lib Dems are just a joke. The party with Democrats in the name wants to revoke something the majority voted for. Dumb. But they will pick up votes from disgruntled Labour supporters who due to "tradition" can't bring themselves to vote Tory. This is common and never changes anything. The best chance they had was the coalition with the Tories and look how that turned out. The one thing the Lib-Dems crusaded on, their line in the sand was an end to tuition fees. They did not deliver. Even "in Government" they didn't have the clout or the political will or couldn't fudge the numbers enough to deliver. They're just weak. The Tories I think have some forward thinking. They won't tax us back to the stone age. They privatised lots of industry and they're sticking by that decision. Reducing the tax burden for those who benefit the most is a great idea. If we have more to spend then we tend to spend it and when we do, VAT is poured back in to the government coffers so revenue is not lost but we can buy the things we want that provides the dopamine rush that makes us feel our lives are better. In general the standard of living in the UK is much higher now than when I was born in the 60's. How much of this is down to the various policies of the various governments is debatable of course but for most of my life the most significant changes that have made a difference to MY life have been made by the Tories. And I think if an honest review of general prosperity and quality of life was made based on the last 30 to 40 years I believe that the more right wing policies are the ones that show real results for the majority of the population the majority of the time. The below clip from "The west Wing" whilst USA-centric, at least shares a principal. The top x percent of UK earners likely pay for a significant proportion OF the UK government in tax, so, as Sam says, lets not call them names while they do it. Cos if we tax them to the point where they take their money somewhere else, who pays then?

The most sensible thing I’ve read on the forum!

Managed a quick blast before sunset... Moody skies over Bristol last Friday

The Prisoner(s). Behind bars! Well, big gates, at least.

Wilkinsons .. bicycle brake cable inner . 99p last time I bought one Buy two and keep one under your seat

Shazbat! They’ve only gone and released yet another “important update” less than 24 hrs after I installed the last one! Grrrr.... 😤😤😤

Yep but tin top as little beast will not be fixed by then.

Just swapping the spark plugs..