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Is it me or are all Westfields Limited Editions.............. very rare to get 2 that look the same

Thanks mate. I will remain a member, and will keep the 427 thread updated. I don’t intend renting the garage out either!

You clearly need these....

Twas a morning of pirouetting for me!

I think it's very much a matter of personnel perspective, yes in my mind I payed a lot of money for me complet 250 kit, but to me thats only a small part of the Westfield experience IMHO. For me my personnel journey into building my kit has opened my upto a new chapter in my life as I now no-longer sit in front of a PC with my clan mates fighting battles on various games every night for long hours, and while I have nothing against the "Gamer" title I have just moved onto a better lifestyle with a different focus, better social life with my local WF buddies. Now I'm very fortunate in being at a stage in my life where I can afford to do this and have the support of my wife, in getting my backside off the sofa and being more active. I'd also echo the point that I've never experienced anything negative about my own 250 from the forum or from anybody I have meet along the way from the WSCC, in fact I'd have struggled to be where I am with my project if it were not from the contributions from everybody here, and I take a positive position to try to help others as others have helped me

Well my crossflow’d Westy has evolved into a zetec Westy. Bogg bros have completed the conversion along with fitting zzr1400 itb’s. All complete bar a mapping session on Tuesday. Hopefully be at blyton the day after!

Thanks Nic, Kev hope to see there tomorrow. jeff

No worries at all. I'd recommend getting along to procomp or AdamR at CleaR motorsport to get the car set up, it was so stiff that I think a good geo and corner weighting session would go down very well.

Deffo felt different but was still too slippy for me to get on with it. Thanks for the advice though. Going to experiment now.

Good luck with the sale mate. It is hard keeping them when there not being used.

Packed and all ready to go. See you all tomorrow.

Well held sir!

one of my videos out on my own. lots of sliding around, but skip to about 3min for the real 90mph brown trouser moment.

@RussH https://youtu.be/fSR65-8K4XA

Disappointed with all the local cars ( great ones at that , I might add) moving onwards. Sadly the Oxfordshire posse , seem to have found the light on ' Chunky and multi cylinders' than ' light and boost' . Whichever way this ends up, i do hope we see the new cars being built on the site here , as we wouldnt want to loose these members and their contributions . Good luck with the (short) sale time Gary and I guess you will have a garage to rent out now !!

I'll vouch for the quality of this car. Good luck with the sale buddy... stay in the club! You and the car If anyone is reading this and scared by the spec, these are surprisingly easy to drive slowly around town. Certainly no lag monster or scary spikes in torque. Just progressive power that pulls all the way to the redline. Hard.

Fantastic car and GLWS.

Narrow models are snug to fit into but I was unaware trousers had to come off !!

I still cant believe you are. Such a great car for the money.

Gary you should have taken that guys number we were talking to at Stoneleigh he would of had this off you in a flash. The guy that sat in my car just before I was leaving in the Sunday

Thats because they use different people making bodywork on a regular basis and different suppliers to get bits from

I have several pairs of jeans with holes burnt through them, it’s the second most annoying thing about having the exhaust on the drivers side. (The first being no more snap crackle and pop from the exhaust while passing militant cyclists!)

Wow, good luck with the sale mate, very well priced as well

Some absolute mint boxes coming up for sale recently. This is no exception looks ace

Absolutely, great write up, too late for this one, but would make a great submission for the next magazine

Superb car for the money!

Blimey 335 bhp from a 1.8 I bet that's a real hoot to drive

SWMBO. Cooking again, looking forward to this. Me. So am I.

Good luck on the trip everyone. I'm planning to join you on Tuesday, and looking at Geoffreys route map, I could meet you at the Commando memorial at Spean Bridge if you let me know a rough time. I'll leave you at Gairloch at the end of the day, and then I'll join you again the following Tuesday for part of your run down through the Cairngorms to Killin.

My thoughts on the day. Positives: We got a good gathering. The location is quite centrally situated for a north south meet up. Rockingham circuit ran a good day, numbers were reasonably low, so the track was never really crowded? Queuing was minimal.. and usually after a red flag. Good to meet new faces. Negatives: Weather! nowt we can do about it unfortunately. There were probably more red flags than a dry day, but I've done days with more! Friday of a Bank holiday weekend wasn't the best choice.. traffic on the way home got a bit heavy. Will probably get a video up at some point. Last session is looking favourite.

Dont worry Gary, them ' south western grockles' @AdgeC will be heading home soon

Excellent write up on what sounds to have been a great day. Thanks for taking the time TJ.

Car looking great. Enjoy your holiday tour. Currently in "the borders" after visiting Outer Hebrides via Skye. Sure you're used to it, but keep your eyes peeled for potholes, some of the roads (irrespective of type) we've been on have been rough as b-----y! I'm amazed only the badge has dropped off the grill on our motorhome! Some great Westfield roads though, look forward to updates.

I will see you there, Jeff. You won't be on your lonesome!!

Not sure might be a D type next but the C type is not finished yet but I need to do it so I have a car for Shelsley Walsh weekend

on the plus side a 36k new car makes a lot of ours look very good value on the used market

The ones I've spoken to aren't that different, beyond having more disposable income.Just regular guys that have worked hard building up their own businesses. But they're not necessarily middle aged codgers like me and many more of us. And as a friend with kids in their teens and twenties pointed out to me last night, those age ranges tend to be way more susceptable to other peoples views and opinions than old gits like me.

Indeed. I know we all have our personal thoughts on the price but can I just point out, Westfield are selling cars at these prices. We'd quite like the buyers to become members too, but while no one is suggesting censoring comments, do consider how welcoming posts about the prices would be to those potential new members! I know at least one Sport 250 owner that spoke to me at Stoneleigh, who felt too embarrassed to join the club as he thought everyone would mock him for what he'd spent. Indeed, he actually went as far as to say it had taken a little bit of the shine off it.

Its a classic car that. Well its been for sale for such a long while because of a comedy price , its a classic now

You’d think it would have better tyres at that price

Well today , the whole family went to Williams GP factory near Wantage. Santa was kind enough to give us some tickets ( on my card !!) to have a look around at the place and the cars. Now, I dont actually like F1 and find it a bit circus like to me. So, bear that in mind in this thread. We were late , with 2 women giving me directions , it went pear shaped , but luckily they hadnt started the tour. and we miss anything. The site is vast, from the security gate , to negotiating which building on the map we were in and which car park. The grounds were very neatly cut and the place was spotless. We parked up and walked to the conference and museum building. We were met by this hedge outside the building. Walking into the reception, we had a couple of cars in front of us. The one on the ground was the 2016 race car We discussed the cars evolution through time and the current designs and aero changes through the years. The 1.6 litre 4 cylinder engines and all the electrical systems and motors and regulations were touched on. We then went into the hall of fame of all the drivers and their crash helmets and how they had changed with safety in mind through time. From there, we saw a video , with the infamous Murray Walker wailing away and clips of Williams wins and Jacques overtaking manouvres . This , we were told we werent allowed to record as poison drawf aka Bernie Ecclestone had copyright of the film . Sad really............ So, then the doors opened to the museum of cars. Alan Jones cars from the very beginning all the way to the 2016 cars in there. We then headed through the cars and saw the changes from designs with fibre glass and alloy tubs to carbon fibre . NA cars to turbo cars to NA cars and back to turbos. Fuel tanks on either side of the drivers to now being in a cell behind them, to now sitting on loads of batteries. We had a Laguna Touring car there , which interests me more and a fantastic 6R4 , which Patrick Head was lead designer of it . The cars all smell oily and thats because they all ( well mostly) work and get used. The 6 wheeler and some of the others were away for a classic french race , so there were a few empty spots. Interestingly , when Honda pulled out of Williams, as they were chasing Senna to Maclaren, they took every engine away and the car stood with an empty engine bay up until about 6 years ago, when Honda let Williams have an engine and wished them luck to get it running, which they did manage to do. So, we headed into the Honda era of cars ( via Judd ) and the turbo time, which some cars in later years ran over 1300 hp. Seems quite frightening, when there was still no real interest in safety , other than moving the drivers a bit further back to stop them loosing their legs in a front impact. Aero wasnt really catching on and the first carbon parts were appearing. This was mainly wings and later tubs . We then headed into the Senna, Mansell, Prost days. Very much technical changes with carbon appearing on wishbones, extra wings and downforce appearing and NA engines again. Interestingly , we headed into the Coulthard era. He took over from Senna after his death. When he jumped in the car, he found out that in the early days , he was paid £5k a race !! Bear in mind that Senna had commanded a million per race. He wasnt happy and approached Frank Williams and asked for a rise, to which Frank said, you signed the contract at that pay ! Then into the BMW era and these cars looked amazing. We also have a Le Man car , which was raced. After this, we then headed upstairs to the trophy room, which they admitted was a bit dusty currently. They also had some cars in there, so we had a picture with Ayrtons winter test car We then proceeded to have a fabulous lunch laid on, which we all enjoyed and then went back into the trophy area ( via the IT department as we got lost ) and you could sit in the test car and take a picture, which we got Mini TJ to do. All in all, a thoroughly enjoyable few hours for all of us and from an engineering perspective was just mind blowing. The finish and detail on the cars and the passion you could see in all the staff was incredible. If you want something for a birthday or christmas, then this is the best 2 1/2 hrs of petrol head heaven going. As for the Westfield and FW link Even the most advanced cars can leak like a crossflow !! Note: I am not an F1 geek, so may have confused a few things, but hopefully its a good insight into Williams

Now that my Cobra Replica build is back in full swing I have been reviewing how I will use my Hobby cars in the future, and it is clear that the Cobra will become the weekend/summer evening road car. This means the Westfield will pretty much be demoted to a track car, and frankly it is too good to just sit in the garage waiting to be used a handful of times a year. So it is time to give it a new home. The car was built in 2011/12 by me and registered in April 2012 after a first time IVA Pass, and has been developed ever since into an extremely powerful track focused road legal car that is very capable in the right hands. It has much more power than an S2000 or Sport 250 Westfield. The spec is as follows:- Exterior/Bodywork Standard ZK Body with fixed rear arches V8 Bonnet Carbon boot cover (hinged and lockable) Reduced boot box Carbon sill kick strips Carbon rear arch protectors Mirrors with incorporated Led indicators Caged Full cage with certification, Longacre mirror LED Rear Lights LED cycle wing repeaters Dominator Headlights and Daylight Running LED’s Carbon fibre half doors (removable) Carbon fibre double bubble aeroscreen Carbon fibre repackablr exhaust silencer Carbon fibre front splitter Carbon fibre rear diffuser Carbon fibre removable side panels allowing great access to engine bay Bighead fastened cycle wings Interior Black GRP race seats Titon 4 point harnesses with Aero buckles Carbon dashboard LED Oil Pressure and Boost Gauges Koso RX2N+ Digidash (waterproof) Low Oil Pressure Warning light Carbon tunnel Carbon rear bulkhead panel Suede steering wheel on quick release boss Self Cancelling Indicators LED Colour changing Dip/Main Beam Toggle switch and Rotary VW Headlight switch 12V Power outlet and double USB power outlet Clutch and brake pedal stops Lowered Floors Mechanical/Running Gear 1839cc Mazda MX5 Mark 2 Engine – 48k donor engine that has been fully stripped and rebuilt with Forged Rods, practically bulletproof Megasquirt PnP ECU IHI VF28 Turbo 276BHP at the wheels; 335BHP at the Flywheel; Approx 550bhp/Ton Loads of Torque 275FtLb at the wheels, 330FtLb at the Flywheel Switchable Maps via Boost button on dashboard – See rolling road graph Red lines give a more linear power delivery, green lines give a more turbo shove in the back feel. Remember the number shown on the Rolling road graph are taken at the wheels, not the flywheel Swirl Pot located in bootbox area Mazda MX5 5 Speed Gearbox Rainbow painted camcover Protech shocks/springs all round MX5 Hubs/Uprights MX5 Brakes (capable of stopping the car easily) Flyin Miata Stage 1 Clutch (nice and light on the pedal) Lightened flywheel Radtec Turbo Radiator/Intercooler Carbon fibre ducting in front of radiator 15” Team Dynamics Pro Race 1.2 Wheels in Satin Graphite with Lightweight Wheel nuts 205 Toyo R888R tyres on rear (loads of tread left) 195 Toyo R88R tyres on front (loads of tread left) Mazda 3.6 LSD 13 Row Remote Oil Cooler 800cc Injectors Alloy Fabrications Expansion Tank Shortened MX5 Sump with Additional “Maruha” Style Baffling Odyssey PC680 Battery Full Geo Set up done by Northampton Motorsport after it was built The exhaust has been sound tested at various venues and always comes back at 93/94 decibels since the car was turbo’ed, so you can get on any track with it MOT’d on 28 April 2018 with no advisories. Oil and filter change on same date. Just under 10,000 miles (less than a 1,000 miles on the turbo’ed engine) The car was recently featured in Complete Kit Car Magazine over two issues. This is a well sorted car that is perfectly happy pootling around town or country lanes. Press the loud pedal and it flies. On track there is not much that can stick with it. Various spares that could be taken as well for a negotiated price:- Fully rebuilt Mk2 MX5 1.8 engine with standard internals MX5 4.1 open diff MX5 5 speed gearbox MX5 Brake Calipers MX5 Hubs/uprights MX5 Sumps MX5 Mk2 MX5 wiring loom And much more that I cannot remember! Personal Reg Number will be removed prior to completion of sale The difficult thing is price. This is a lot of car and I think £????? is a fair reflection.

Not a good idea to rest your leg against the hot exhaust of your Westy and then do exactly the same thing, on the same spot, on someone elses Westy the next day!