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So here we go with this years main holibobs so that’s the car all washed polished and packed ready for our holiday, Trina lending a hand too Leaving Sunday morning as we head off to tour Scotland’s west coast Our rough itinerary if anyone wishes to join us for a bit Sunday down to the kelpies and Falkirk wheel to meet up with Geoffrey and Terry then on to glencoe Monday around glencoe and ardnamuchan and mallaig Tuesday upto glenelg for the ferry to Skye back over the bridge over applecross to gairloch Wednesday up to Durness Thursday around Durness Friday over to orkney for the weekend Monday down to strathpeffer Tuesday down to Killin Wednesday around Killin Thursday back north to Dufftown Please note we are touring and sightseeing so it’s nice and easy

Well despite the weather forecast, everybody turned up and we had a great time. My first outing with the Warwickshire guys, and I found you all to be a great bunch, and Steve was an excellent host. Thanks very much. Mind you, I wasn't the only one in an MX5

Well my crossflow’d Westy has evolved into a zetec Westy. Bogg bros have completed the conversion along with fitting zzr1400 itb’s. All complete bar a mapping session on Tuesday. Hopefully be at blyton the day after!

Having said that people saying too cheap are not the ones buying it. When ever I have sold. Always priced it at what I want and made clear on the phone it ain't going cheaper saves the faff. Good luck with it Looks lovely

I think it's very much a matter of personnel perspective, yes in my mind I payed a lot of money for me complet 250 kit, but to me thats only a small part of the Westfield experience IMHO. For me my personnel journey into building my kit has opened my upto a new chapter in my life as I now no-longer sit in front of a PC with my clan mates fighting battles on various games every night for long hours, and while I have nothing against the "Gamer" title I have just moved onto a better lifestyle with a different focus, better social life with my local WF buddies. Now I'm very fortunate in being at a stage in my life where I can afford to do this and have the support of my wife, in getting my backside off the sofa and being more active. I'd also echo the point that I've never experienced anything negative about my own 250 from the forum or from anybody I have meet along the way from the WSCC, in fact I'd have struggled to be where I am with my project if it were not from the contributions from everybody here, and I take a positive position to try to help others as others have helped me

Plus you have the opposite end of the spectrum, the retired types that buy such toys as retirement presents for themselves, that are not petrol heads and have no great car history. It's always been one of those things, that as a club, we have struggled to attract those members, as we feel to much of a clique to them. And that somehow they will suffer some sort of "judgement" for buying a factory built, brand new car, taking it to the factory for all servicing and maintenance and for not doing track days, just summer gentle runs out and touring. nThe sort of people who don't quite fancy a Morgan, but really don't want a Porsche either!

Sounds similar to me extricating myself from a mates Exige. It was rather an unpleasant vision , like a hippo dropping a breach baby hippo as my ass hits the floor and my legs are still in the car

My favourite was uttered by a little girl, prompted by the sight of me clambering out of the thing (had the roof on the car at the time). “Mummy, how did that big fat man get in that tiny little car?” Mummy was mortified, but I just laughed. Can’t be upset by the truth. Still makes me chuckle when I remember it.

So thought I had better move over here as now the cars on the road our adventures aren’t really for tech talk So day two and another lovely day out, left Home in blustery weather overcast and some looming clouds some sunny spells went out over the lecht to corgarf where the braemar road was shut so did a loop around strathdon down to braemar and on to glenshee then backtracked Home , had a great day and avoided the rain ( always a bonus) Bring on the holibobs next week

I've been thinking about different projects whilst on holiday and its with regret I'm going to advertise my Westfield for sale as it just does not get used enough, I'm sure I will regret this Spec and I might forget things The important bit Ford 1.6 ecoboost engine running SCS Delta ecu producing 229bhp and 260lb ft torque, if you want more then a simple hybrid turbo change will give you over 300bhp but I'm not sure I've got that ability to control. The ecu does offer Traction control if you want to push this further Running a wet baffled sump Wide body independent rear suspension Protech shocks High flow alloy rad, with an air/ water inter cooler Wide track Quick rack 13"x7" minilites alloys 205 Toyo on rear 185 Toyo front Sierra 3.62 LSD Digital dash Suede steering wheel Steering buttons/switches for headlight main beam, horn and indicators Blink stop for turning indicators off Floor mounted pedals Adjustable brake balance Carbon/ grp race seats Full harness Full cage V8 bonnet Carbon nose cone Carbon front splitter Carbon canards Carbon sides Carbon exhaust Carbon doors Carbon fly screen Carbon arch protectors Carbon tunnel Carbon dash Carbon rear panel Carbon boot cover (hinged and lockable) Carbon panel on scuttle (inside engine bay) to allow easy access to rear of dash area Carbon steering column cover and lower scuttle fire wall This car runs super quiet so no worries on track day noise and if you want a bit more noise from it, then you can run it without the exhaust and it still won't annoy the neighbours. I'm sure I've forgotten things plus I will add more pictures to the Advert once I get back from holiday Ok the awkward thing price, £12500 I. Think is fair this car is ready for summer blating

Dont worry Gary, them ' south western grockles' @AdgeC will be heading home soon

Not sure might be a D type next but the C type is not finished yet but I need to do it so I have a car for Shelsley Walsh weekend

Dont forget it will need a service after 10, 000 miles Gary, so probably August time at this rate

Somebody has got a great car there. @CL290005 has great attention to detail and this was a well engineered rebuild/engine swap. Congrats on the sale Chris

Speaking from Derby and Notts perspective it wouldn't be the case there either. No one would bat and eyelid whether it was a £3,000 recovery / restoration car or top spec purchase and drive owner.

I’ll be there..looking forward to seeing all your great cars

Did mine for less. Of course my spend is now at £13k and climbing - but still very pleased with my bargain funding abilities Oh and after I swap out the aging donor diff for a new Quaife ATB LSD next week, that’s the last bit of SDV left other than rear hubs. The rest has been replaced. I can live with that.

on the plus side a 36k new car makes a lot of ours look very good value on the used market

If I’m 4K light then Best Buy it and make 4K profit

To be fair it sounds like the owner is potentially embarrassed themselves about how much they've paid rather than the perceptions on here. And if that's the case there's nowt that could be said on here that would change anything. If I had worked hard to either build or buy a 30k+ car then to be blunt I wouldn't give a toss what anyone thought if it's what I wanted. If you've got their contact details tell them to get on and introduce themselves and their car.

Okay, just to put some flesh on the bones here...it’s inside a Hertz Rentals bus. The car rental facilities are all off site the airport at LAX, so they send buses to pick people up at the terminals and drive them to collect their cars. The young lady driving is a Hertz agent. She’s driving a Mk 2 Ford Econoliner van. The driver sat right next to the engine. What’s in the box, however, is a mystery.

Not seeing it doesn't mean there isn't a subtle undercurrent sometimes. His very coment to me included the fact that there have been threads with people laughing at the price of the West Coast 500 Sport 250 and those that would spend that much on a Westfield. As for the other more broader comments, they cover many years observation of the Boardroom, at one point for instance, people would be quite looked down on for not working on the car's themselves. What we perceive as encouragement to "have a go", can sometimes be taken the wrong way!

too deep

Wow, what a fantastic amount of car for the money!

The ones I've spoken to aren't that different, beyond having more disposable income.Just regular guys that have worked hard building up their own businesses. But they're not necessarily middle aged codgers like me and many more of us. And as a friend with kids in their teens and twenties pointed out to me last night, those age ranges tend to be way more susceptable to other peoples views and opinions than old gits like me.

Ah that's a shame I honestly thought people that could afford to spend/waste (take your pick :D ) that sort of money on a 'toy' would not honestly care what lower class owners thought/said!!

Quite interesting to see how second hand values across the board for older Westfields in particular seems to have climbed in the past year or so.

Good point Dave. Better to not devalue our hobby.

Perhaps visit the McDonald’s after the weigh in rather than before?

Spoken to john he is sorting my entry today and i have just sent payment looking forward to it.

If there is such a thing as life after death I would hope to come back as a steering columb on Bus 7

Happens all the time with me , can never remember which level on multi story cp's Once reported it stolen in Manchester , I had parked 1/2 way up a side street off Oxford road , couldn't remember which one , after an hour or so of walking every side street i was convinced it had been nicked , the coppers found it parked , it had been partly concealed by a large van Another time I went up town to do some shopping , I walked home , grabbed a cuppa and settled down to watch footy ball , when swmbo arrives home she asks "were's the car " I then remembered I had gone up town in the car and had left it on the car park forgetting all about it

Hi all, so im finally (after a 9month searching period) the owner of a Westfield. Ive purchased a megablade turbo, previously built by John on here. If anyone has any contacts details for John or build info on the car id love to touch base with him. Cant believe the attention to detail on particular parts of the build, very impressed! Ome cheeky garage pic before locking her up for the night.

Hi, I'm somewhat reluctantly advertising my Westfield for sale. It's the third Westie I've owned, bought from the original builder just over two years ago and only for sale now because I've finally admitted to myself that I just don't have the time to use it enough and that's likely to continue to be the case for the foreseeable future. It was built by a fairly wealthy retired chap in 2010 who had something of a 'gentleman racer' fantasy with the idea that he'd have a car that he could drive to the track, race and then subsequently drive home. As far as I know that idea remained something of a fantasy throughout his ownership, it never saw a starting line but he did build a really good car. Two years ago I wasn't really looking to buy another Westfield, however a mutual friend of the previous owner and I pointed me towards this car and, once I'd viewed it, I realised it was too well built to miss out on and ended up buying it. The car is built on a 2010 Aerorace chassis power by a Zetec blacktop that was brand new at build date, the most recent rolling road graph I have shows 232bhp. It's located a few miles north of Bromsgrove, 5 mins from J4 of the M5, Full Specification 2010 Aerorace chassis with removable rear arches (chassis marginally lighter and stiffer than the road chassis of the same period) fully road legal and the same dimensions as the standard SEIW. 9800 miles MOT to 19th May 2019 Black bodywork with carbon look front arches, in very good but not unmarked condition. It’s currently in full road trim with windscreen, wipers, washers, interior carpets etc. In that spec at the last setup session with about 1/2 tank of fuel it weighed exactly 602kg. Clearly if you wanted to there’s some significant weight to be easily lost. I have a lever arch file full to bursting with all the paperwork associated with the car from the original kit order at Westfield onwards. Engine Built in 2010 with new Zetec Blacktop Head ported and polished by CNC heads and matched with their specification cam. Following this link ( http://www.cncheads.co.uk/?p=755 ) takes you to the website the tuner provides on this head and cam combination for more info, extrapolating the power claims CNC make ( 215bhp @ 6400rpm and 247 bhp @ 8200rpm) to the 7500rpm limit on this car fairly accurately supports the claimed power output on this engine. Arrow engineering buckets ARP rod bolts Balanced and polished crank Standard Zetec flywheel machined and lightened by CNC Heads Raceline sump Omex 600 ECU Jenvey throttle bodies Bosch green injectors Simpson Race Exhausts aluminium manifold 4 into 2 into 1 ( http://simpsonraceexhausts.com/manifolds/ ) Westfield carbon silencer Bespoke breathers all feeding into aluminium catch tank in the nose cone, although very little oil ever gets blown into the tank. Most importantly lots of time and effort spent mapping the engine. Despite it's relatively high state of tune it starts easily hot or cold, idles nicely and is generally very drivable and tractable with no grumpiness or nasty flat spots. In the interest of longevity the limiter is set at 7500 rpm at which point the power curve is still climbing. It also makes some lovely burbles and pops on the overrun. Cooling Aluminium race radiator from Radtec with 60mm core and Aerorace ducting ( http://radtec.co.uk/products/331/Vauxall-Ford-Cosworth.htm ) Custom pipe work and thermostat housing which ensures this car never has the cooling issues some Zetec Westfield suffer from, coolant temp is rock solid in both traffic and in hard use on track Drivetrain Helix fast road clutch Rebuilt Sierra 3.92 LSD, no clunks or play and locks up nicely but not too aggressively. I actually prefer this diff to the ATB I had in a previous car, although it's not quite as tight at slow speeds for 1st gear sillyness that seems to result in it never 'pushing' the car into understeer in faster corners on track. I therefore prefer the way the car drives in comparison to car with a tighter diff, however it wouldn't be as useful in an autocross type scenario. BGH E8 type 9 gearbox. Ratios and price listed in the following link, this is the strongest and most expensive 'box BGP supply ( http://www.bghgeartech.co.uk/html/5_speed.html ). The ratios suit the engine very well with a usefully long first and 5th geared to a theoretical max of about 140mph. (Ratios are 2.66/1.75/1.26/1.00/0.86) Chassis Standard Aerorace chassis with associated extra bracing in comparison to same era road chassis, this car does not have lowered floors. Protech single adjustable shocks valved and setup by Procomp in Birmingham along with a full geometry setup, car runs with a reasonable amount of negative camber and some toe out at the front which gives a pretty sharp turn it, understeer isn't really something it understands! No anti roll bars currently fitted, however at the rear the brackets are present both on the lower wishbones and above and behind the fuel tank so to fit both front and rear ARB's would simple be a bolt on job after buying from Westfield, Playskool or similar. 13 inch ProRace 1.2 wheels in black with nearly new medium compound Toyo R888R in 205/50/15. Rallydesign Quickrack and sort steering arms fitted. Unlike some of the so called 'quickrack' setups I've seen this gives a real two turns lock to lock with the arches almost touching the tub on both sides on full lock, ie it's a genuine quick rack, not the version Westfield sell which is far from it and gives a terrible turning circle. Westfield alloy uprights both front and rear. Westfield widetrack front wishbones. Braking is a full AP racing setup including master cylinder and front and rear callipers. Fitted with Mintex 1144 pads and a brake bias adjuster. The car (in my opinion) drives beautifully, it's pointy, intuitive and hugely predictable but the setup is still relatively soft which means it's eminently useable as a road car with sensible ground clearance and great compliance while still being blisteringly quick on track. The lack of anti-roll bars is entirely my choice, I bought it with bars fitted but just prefer the way it drives without, I no longer have the antiroll bars for it. As stated above, if your preference is different it's a very easy job to refit appropriate bars from Playskool or similar. Other Bits Floor mounted Westfield padded race seats with 4 point Westfield harness for passenger and in date FIA 6 point harness for driver. Standard Westfield VDO instrumentation with suede three spoke steering wheel and carpeted interior. FIA approved Caged Roll Cage with homologation sticker. Plumbed in Lifeline fire extinguisher system (the extinguisher is out of date so would need replacing for scrutineering purposes if you ever wanted to race it) Lifeline FIA rain light which is wired to additionally act as fog light for MOT purposes. FIA approved battery cut off switch (which doubles up as a good security addition. Odyssey lightweight dry cell battery. I'm sure there's something I've missed but that's hopefully the important stuff. Inevitably the car's not entirely perfect, the only real issue is that inevitably after 8 years and 9800 miles the bodywork is no longer absolutley mint, there's some stone shipping down both the left and right side behind the front wheels. The left rear arch has been covered in clear protective tape and is in good nick underneath that tape, the right rear arch is in less good condition, particularly lower down at the front however I have a brand new right rear arch that can either be fitted pre sale or supplied with the car. There is also a 4 inch square hole in the bodywork on the lower front left side where the Westfield factory exhaust used to emerge from the engine bay before it was changed for the current one; this has been covered with black mesh and is not obvious. Other than that the car has no known faults; I'd always planned to tart it up a bit with a carbon boot cover and carbon dash but, like so much, the job's still on my to do list! In summary I've had a little bit of experience of various Westfields over the past 6 years and in my opinion this is a very good one. It's got a great spec and, much more importantly, it's been really carefully built by someone who knew what they were doing and had both the time and cash available to do the job properly. I don't have to sell it and know that replacing it with a car of the same standard will be difficult, but it also seem stupid to have it sitting hardly being used. With that in mind I'm looking for SOLD for the car. In addition and by separate negotiation there's also a set of 15 inch Pro Race 1.2s with part worn T1R tires on them and a Brian James Minno max twin axle trailer available if a buyer is interested. If you have any questions, queries or just fancy a good old chat about thel please feel free to give me a bell on 07909 696872, if I don't answer I'll get back to you asap. Thanks for reading,, Josh

I have been to work in my Westfield every work day since Stoneleigh including today.

My son keeps going on about not feeling well and being 'sick' . I thought it was an excuse to get off school.............. Not had many comments about this car , but the chap in the Shell station asked if my Lotus Elise was a Ferrari ? .......................of course I said yes The one comment I got from my last Westie was from someone walking on the pavement , when I trundled up to a crossing , the car ejected a big flame out the exhaust............... cue pedestrian shouting out ' Oh Crap !!!, that nearly burnt my leg' before starting to laugh ..............

well I’ve just been to the Westfield factory in person and I can’t say just how helpful they were!! Fantastic bunch! I sat in a wide body with lowered floor and it was absolutely perfect!! Manager showed me around; The wide without the lowered floor would be fine too he said because he was exactly same size and build as me!

Hi Jim Ive just checked the spring membership list and you were definitely on it at your address that is on the system, please log on and check your profile address is correct and ill get another one sent out to you asap Thanks Mark

The envy of this thread is very strong, Gary

Well today , the whole family went to Williams GP factory near Wantage. Santa was kind enough to give us some tickets ( on my card !!) to have a look around at the place and the cars. Now, I dont actually like F1 and find it a bit circus like to me. So, bear that in mind in this thread. We were late , with 2 women giving me directions , it went pear shaped , but luckily they hadnt started the tour. and we miss anything. The site is vast, from the security gate , to negotiating which building on the map we were in and which car park. The grounds were very neatly cut and the place was spotless. We parked up and walked to the conference and museum building. We were met by this hedge outside the building. Walking into the reception, we had a couple of cars in front of us. The one on the ground was the 2016 race car We discussed the cars evolution through time and the current designs and aero changes through the years. The 1.6 litre 4 cylinder engines and all the electrical systems and motors and regulations were touched on. We then went into the hall of fame of all the drivers and their crash helmets and how they had changed with safety in mind through time. From there, we saw a video , with the infamous Murray Walker wailing away and clips of Williams wins and Jacques overtaking manouvres . This , we were told we werent allowed to record as poison drawf aka Bernie Ecclestone had copyright of the film . Sad really............ So, then the doors opened to the museum of cars. Alan Jones cars from the very beginning all the way to the 2016 cars in there. We then headed through the cars and saw the changes from designs with fibre glass and alloy tubs to carbon fibre . NA cars to turbo cars to NA cars and back to turbos. Fuel tanks on either side of the drivers to now being in a cell behind them, to now sitting on loads of batteries. We had a Laguna Touring car there , which interests me more and a fantastic 6R4 , which Patrick Head was lead designer of it . The cars all smell oily and thats because they all ( well mostly) work and get used. The 6 wheeler and some of the others were away for a classic french race , so there were a few empty spots. Interestingly , when Honda pulled out of Williams, as they were chasing Senna to Maclaren, they took every engine away and the car stood with an empty engine bay up until about 6 years ago, when Honda let Williams have an engine and wished them luck to get it running, which they did manage to do. So, we headed into the Honda era of cars ( via Judd ) and the turbo time, which some cars in later years ran over 1300 hp. Seems quite frightening, when there was still no real interest in safety , other than moving the drivers a bit further back to stop them loosing their legs in a front impact. Aero wasnt really catching on and the first carbon parts were appearing. This was mainly wings and later tubs . We then headed into the Senna, Mansell, Prost days. Very much technical changes with carbon appearing on wishbones, extra wings and downforce appearing and NA engines again. Interestingly , we headed into the Coulthard era. He took over from Senna after his death. When he jumped in the car, he found out that in the early days , he was paid £5k a race !! Bear in mind that Senna had commanded a million per race. He wasnt happy and approached Frank Williams and asked for a rise, to which Frank said, you signed the contract at that pay ! Then into the BMW era and these cars looked amazing. We also have a Le Man car , which was raced. After this, we then headed upstairs to the trophy room, which they admitted was a bit dusty currently. They also had some cars in there, so we had a picture with Ayrtons winter test car We then proceeded to have a fabulous lunch laid on, which we all enjoyed and then went back into the trophy area ( via the IT department as we got lost ) and you could sit in the test car and take a picture, which we got Mini TJ to do. All in all, a thoroughly enjoyable few hours for all of us and from an engineering perspective was just mind blowing. The finish and detail on the cars and the passion you could see in all the staff was incredible. If you want something for a birthday or christmas, then this is the best 2 1/2 hrs of petrol head heaven going. As for the Westfield and FW link Even the most advanced cars can leak like a crossflow !! Note: I am not an F1 geek, so may have confused a few things, but hopefully its a good insight into Williams