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Entered. First event of the year.....and not in the Jedi either so no points for me but never mind.

Ex CVH'er here.......With my Old Orange Westfield I pretty much took the CVH engine to it's max without turbocharging. First thing is the dry sump really is a rare beast, I could never find one, ended up with an accusump. As for the CVH, it's actually a great engine when set up right. Only thing that doesn't ring quite true is the rev limit on hydraulic lifters. 7krpm on solids would be just about do-able. As for 140bhp....it could well be, but as well as the cam the head would need porting along with the inlet manifold. My CVH westfield had a 2ltr block with a ported head and manifold, running a kent 305 cam and solid lifters, all on megasquirt and gsxr600TB's - pumped out a reliable 173bhp (and that was on Northampton motorsports rolling road, so was real), and a really good wodge of torque. I've attached the article I wrote with Troy from Northampton Motorsport. I thought I knew pretty much everything that there was to know about the CVH, and must confess to have never come across the 'blue block' thing...could be it was simply painted blue. They also use the cvh with a dry sump set up in the formula ford cars back in the day...I wonder if the engine originated from there?. Anyway, enjoy it, keep an eye on cam wear and it should give you yrs of good service. Westfield world article.pdf

Tom! Your car looks great and I'm sure it goes very well too. As Dave says we would like to find out more particularly what happens over 6000rpm You need to get along to a local area meet as you will find lots of advice there too. Shame its a bit too far for you to come our Warks area meet tomorrow evening

I appreciate that I'm talking to myself here. But I just gave Neil Roper a call. He seems like a really decent guy, and confirmed that the above is correct; though it's "one of the first". He doubts that anyone has done much more to the engine since he parted company with the car. He also basically told me to stop wussing out at 6000rpm, and see what happens at around 7000rpm, as peak power isn't until 6500rpm. Fun .

Also, another cautionary tale, and this ain't hearsay, it's personal experience. Short version: If you were to go for an overtake or undertake, and he moved back out on you, causing a collision, unless you had VERY solid evidence of careless driving on his behalf, I'm afraid your going to cop the full lot insurance wise, for both vehicles. Full story: Travelling back home from a job site about 4.30 in the afternoon, ordinary A road, single lane either way, the typical short to medium straights interspersed with a mix of bends. Three cars in front is a very sedately driven Citroen AX, never doing more than 40 even in the very clear, straight sections - the whole road was national speed limit, tighter bends, he'd be below twenty. I forget what the two cars ahead of me were, nothing overtly sporty, but at a minimum modern, quickish saloons. At least one was German. Both could happily cruise that section of road at a steady 80, with no need to drop below 50 on the tighter bends, other than to obey the speed limits of course, but I mention it for context. Both had been behind him for fifteen minutes or so, that I knew of and were getting increasingly frustrated, starting to try and encourage him along by their road positioning and driving style. On one short straight, the car immediately behind him finally got past, in a very aggressive overtaking manoeuvre, (I've got a great view of this, as I've been hanging a long way back, in a big, loaded, tank of a Carlton Estate). The next car along then carries on the tailgating and "hurrying" manor for another mile, before pulling off another highly aggressive overtake. I'm next, still a good 500 yards or more back, but I also know there's a much longer straight, with good visibility coming, though not a massively wide section of road, full two lane I should add, just with immediate soft verges. So, I start a run up, keeping a close eye on both the vehicles and the other drivers "body language" and watching his eye line through the mirrors. From 25 metres or so back, I have about twenty/thirty now on him and accelerating, I also have firm eye contact and a tracking head as he follows my movement, so I KNOW he's seen me, and not simply glanced in my direction and missed me. As I can see him continue to watch me, I'm now committed and probably have a good 40 mph on top of him. I've approached from around 25 m back on the other side of the road, indicating, so know mistake can be made over intent. I'm also deliberately, after the last two, not making sudden moves towards him, and physically trying to let him see me give him as wide a berth as possible, and not crowd. So, at two metres away, he indicates right and moves over!! As I say, soft verges, I have no where to go but forwards, and no way to scrub off the speed difference. The plastic rear tailgate of the AX was never found! It just disintegrated into unidentifiable shards of plastic! His car ended up three foot shorter. To this day, no one knows exactly why he did what he did. The police speculated road rage, brought on by the other two motorists and I was just the final straw. He claimed he hadn't seen me. The Police's statement at the time made it plain they believed me, but nothing could be proven one way or the other. The insurance company also believed me, and fought long and hard in court to get the blame placed on him. They failed. The long and short of it was that without very powerful evidence to the contrary, the motorist behind, that collides with the vehicle in front, will ALWAYS get the blame. The best you can hope for is knock for knock.

Clearly you lot all know you're on an open forum and therefore posting the sensible options! Afraid I'm still a child, clearly I'd undertake on the left, rip the handbrake once past spin it round give said MPV driver the birdy for blocking my path when I'm clearly trying to make progress! Handbrake it back round and disappear off with the thing bouncing off the limiter after all I'm driving a mildly sporty hatchback and it's much better than the van I normally drive! Actually sensible option, I'd pass him on the right, two wheels on the grass and then side swipe him back into the lane he belongs in......

Not sure, Geoffrey, it came out near the Altahanarra Hotel. Noticed the oil pressure dropping, switched it off as it hit zero and coasted into a layby. Luckily no engine damsge. Local garage fixed it in a day.

Good start.

We will be heading up to join Robin's event. I will sort meet points at Haslingden, Clitheroe then Skipton/Helifield to meet up with those travelling from Yorkshire. See Forum...

That's me entered too First event for a couple of years David

Now I understand why people talk so much about Applecross... my word!

Last night of our tour. We're good friends now.

Before you start trying the 7k rev limiter, sensible move is a water pump and cam belt. Those are the Achilles heal for the cvh and many have been lost by either breaking.

Hi all, hope this late-ish notification is ok but I'll be another from the Aberdeen area joining in, although I plan to meet up at 10:00 on the Friday at Kilmahog and participate for the whole weekend inc barbie and Sat meal etc. Canvas accommodation (ie tent). Really looking forward to it all. Cheers, Les

I totally lost it at the Chaperone Monkey when he racked the pump action... How do I get one of these in my life..?

Yes no problem let me know when it arrives and I'll PM you my address. John

Almost as good as having a trunk-monkey!

Totally unrelated but it's my thread so I can drift it...! Many years ago a good friend had the world's biggest ever Rottweiler - and an AX Henry the Rottie used to travel in the back of the AX (completely filling it) and occasionally my mate would leave him in the back when running an errand. Henry discovered the rear hatch was flexible and if he lent on it hard enough from the inside, it would pop open. Many times we would find him sat outside the car with its boot wide open. Funnily enough, the car nor nothing in it was ever stolen...

Agree fully. Of course, it's also something, these days, you should assume everyone else has too...

As soon as I read this bit, I knew what was coming... A grim tale well told - and I totally understand it's the guys behind who will cop it unless there is biblical evidence written in tablets of stone to the contrary Which is why all the cars have a dash cam - yes it could be used against me, but in my mind the ratio between me doing something stupid against the other muggle doing something stupid probably makes the risk worth it...

Posted a similar response on a recent sales thread! First off, things do go wrong occasionally, we're all Human, well mainly.. And sometimes, for whatever reason, people don't follow the norms of net-etiquette. But, for the rest of us For buyers, (assuming you don't have lots of questions and just want to buy) Always use a two pronged approach, post immediately in the thread, either saying you would like to purchase the item, and that you will send a PM immediately to sort out the details of the sale. OR, that you would like to buy, but it's conditional on X. Again, send a PM to accompany the post. Near in mind though a couple of things when you make the sale conditional on something; if "X" is simply a case of the seller measuring the width of a part so that you can check it fits, that's reasonable. It may, for quite legitimate reasons not be possible for the seller to do so - they may work away from home during the week etc. For this reason, do not assume the seller is happy to go with this condition unless they say so. They may just read to the next post, where someone says that they'll have the part regardless and sell to them. That's fine, it's their choice. If on the other hand you ask something much vaguer, like I'd like to but your doodad, but will it fit my 2011 Mega Whatsit Turbo V12? Then do not be offended if you get no reply and the seller moves to the next offer. Remember, fro every seller that really knows Westfields and what parts will work elsewhere there are dozens that have no better idea that you. It's your job to do the research to see if the part will fit. The most you can ask is if they will hold a part for a short period while you check. And be fair, say "can you give me 24 hours to check" don't leave them hanging for days. Once posted and PM'd keep an eye on the thread, if you see them post again, and you've heard nothing, re post and re PM, politely asking if they got your previous message. Keep in mind that inboxes can very quickly fill on a popular item, especially if people ask questions by pm. Likewise, click on the sellers little avatar picture. On the profile page that pops up, under their display name it says when they last visited the Boardroom. Check this, if they've visited since you PM'd and you've heard nothing, assume they didn't get it, or didn't see it. Again, post in the sales thread. Sellers: out of common courtesy, we have an obligation to check our sales threads and our PM inboxed regularly. Clearing out old PM's as necessary. If outside life/work intervenes and you find yourself with a live ad, suddenly having to go away etc, where you will have on Internet access, pop a post up on the thread to say as much and give a rough idea when you will next be able to check in on things. One thing to note though, items are often for sale elsewhere, and it's not uncommon for sellers friends, local club members etc to spread the news about the item for sale, and for people to then contact directly, without even seeing the forum advert. It happens, as a buyer, it's annoying, but it's just life. And lastly, sorry to sound like a grumpy old fart, but enough already with "dibs", since the expression suddenly started being used in sales threads, it's caused lots of confusion about whether items were sold or not, and to whom. Leave it in the playgorund where it belongs.

Never really thought of myself as either a "lifestyle shopper" or someone overly influenced by looks. If I was, I may have bought a shiny FW, rather than my old pre-lit!

I will look tomorrow Kev as I have just left for work.

Keep me in the loop, weather dependent naturally. Oh no! It's the same Sunday 2nd July for the Leighton hall car show Will have to make up my mind which one????

Back!

Back, Once bitten by the bug !!! will you be at Silverstone

I will be coming tonight. See you later.

The next meeting is on the 20th July from 7.30pm, hope to see you then. All the dates are in the local events calendar together with other gatherings or runs on weekends so browse there to check out what we are doing. If you use Facebook it might be worth joining our group there for last minute runs out etc!

Hi Everyone Thanks very much for thr overwhelming support for the 2017 Gluten Free Dinner, absolutely superb! I am in the process of sorting the mini bus transport again for this year but I do need to know rhe numbers who like to use the service for a very reasonable small charge. To make it easy and simple would those of you who have booked for the meal but DO NOT need a mini bus ride please either put a post on this thread or email me on g.frankland@btinternet.com and I will do the rest! Many thanks and look forward to seeing you all at Blyton very soon! BR Glutey

Another cracking run out today over to Lairg then up the side of Lock Shin to Laxford Bridge,Then back down the coast road to Ullapool.

An eventful day in more ways then one

Would have been rude not to sprint on at least one day - so Saturday entered, & Sunday will 'put back in' by volunteering to help.

I take it , your bum is the smallest one there in the picture then Julie

A wet run up to Scotland

A rare photo without the roofs on

Tea.

Thanks, came over Applecross and along coast road to Ullapool. amazing roads and awesome scenery and 'biblical' rain But thoroughly enjoying every minute. Shared the road at one stage with 2 Mclarens and a 911 Porsche and a load of Aston Martins.

As a non-Scot, married to a Scot, and living in Scotland, I've seen more of Scotland than most Scots! We've toured every corner of Scotland, mainland and the Isles, on motorbike, car and camper, and there's not many single-track dead-ends we haven't stuck our nose up for a look-see. Of the big chunks, there's only Shetland we haven't visited. But that's always the way - as a New Zealander, who has done plenty of motorbike touring in NZ, I'd never been further south than Christchurch 'til I started taking my wife back home on holidays every couple of years. Two day trips out from Fort William may interest you - the shorter is the road out to Mallaig, the longer is the road out to the remote Ardnamurchan Point, the most westerly point of mainland Britain. Or, once you've got to Mallaig, catch the ferry to the bottom of Skye for a loop of the island, then carry on north via Applecross and Ullapool to Dunnet Head, the most northernly point of the mainland (John o' Groats is just for the tourists). Just remember, Westfield tanks are small, and gas stations can be scarce and not always open on the weekend or after 7pm - if you're on a 1/4 tank and you see a station, fill up. Never mind the east side of Scotland, you'll not have the time in just a week to take it all in - that's a whole trip on it's own, with whisky trails etc, and there's a neat car museum in Alford, out from Aberdeen too. From Inverness, come back down through the Great Glen, on the west side of Loch Ness which although pretty you'll curse all the trucks and coaches, or on the little known east side, single track some of the way. At the top of Loch Lomond, stop or stay at the Drovers Inn (UK Pub of the Year - 1705) - other than electricity, not much has changed much since then, except lean over a bit more. The walls of the bar are black with open fire soot, and they make the best haggis and cheese baked potatoes! They say it's also haunted...woooooooo! Just remembered - on the way up from Glasgow, grab the Gourock to Dunoon ferry and do the stunning Argyle coast road then onto Fort William via Oban. Or, forget the ferry and go via the Rest-and-be-Thankful summit. We did the Argyle loop last weekend in our self-built camper for an overnight wild camp just out of Kames/Tighnabruaich. (as an aside, and a merciless plug to keep me at the top of the youtube search list, see my camper build here... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SweT1DuQbqA Have a great trip.

If it was me and you had a week only, I would avoid the east coast as it is certainly no way as spectacular as the west. I would concentrate on the area going up from Glencoe, to Durness and also the Isle of Skye. You wont go wrong on any of the roads around there.