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Such a slacker. You sent me this photo on Monday................. its now Saturday

If you get caught short at Toms house, this is the loo

Wow, I never would have guessed it would look like that

Nothing like a carbon bell

carbon is so over rated

Just collected this bad boy

Yep! And seized brakes to boot! It was parked on her front lawn so jacking it wasn't really an option. The brakes freed fairly easily with a bit of rocking and thumping, so we then rolled it off the grass on to the road. With the engine warmed up I tried cranking it in first gear along the road until it started, then standing on everything: clutch (obviously), brakes, and accelerator. Driving along with the front wheels locked didn't put up sufficient resistance so last ditch effort was to jack it as suggested in item 3. Spun up the rear wheels in fourth gear and then simultaneously shut the throttle, and pressed the clutch and brakes (hard). There was a bang and the rear wheels stopped turning but the engine run at idle. Obviously the clutch was now free! It seemed safer to use the brakes first than drop it off the jack. Had we failed to free the brakes then it would still be on her grass! Oh, I lied about the house wall.....

even I am not that mad

I went to their PH open day a few years ago when the first car was ready. I was massively disappointed by the quality and looks. I didn't even bother driving it as I knew I wouldn't buy one. I think that they targeted the wrong market. For me the gap is the space that used to be occupied by TVR. Manual, RWD, 2 seater sports cars sub £45k. The sort of car that you would use at weekends and for road trips but still feels individual and special. What is out there today? Elise is good but a bit small. MX5 even smaller and lacking power and special factor, Cayman / Boxster OK but a bit mainstream and 'safe' and gets expensive quickly with options, Evora a great car but list price above budget above, BMW Z4 OK looking but not really a sports car, Merc auto only etc .... That's why second hand TVR prices are still so strong. There are plenty of cheap track orientated cars. The Xenos is more road orientated and yet not practical and didn't even have killer looks, performance or price on its side.

Well no cause I have a westy - for me it needed a roof to sell - else it's just a track car and if I was looking for a purely tack car I would rather have a seven or a xtr2 style car tbh

Lotus as a brand, which has far more street awareness and is always cash struggling. I only knew of Zenos, as I saw one locally about last summer time and had to google it, so not that actually out in the market, particulary well. It has to fight the usual fully built cars such as Caterham R's and Atoms , which both have massive brand awareness. The TG and GT may have made more people aware, but as a market , it was going to be a massive struggle. I nearly bought a Ginetta G40r before building a Westie and even with TV coverage on touring cars, most people wouldnt know of them. They only built a handful of road cars in the end and then refocussed on their race cars, so it didnt hurt them. Maybe the consideration for buyers on potential resale is another thing, with Atoms and Caterhams both holding strong money after the owners want to move on. With the Zenos that may also have been a hidden loss maker. Its a shame that it has happened , but marketing and actual selling these types of cars is always going to be micro niche.

This is as far as I got sorry Work has got in the way, plus we have our yearly planning meeting today, so that's another day gone.........

See link for help with understanding radial slick tyre sizes. http://www.avonmotorsport.com/motorsport/radial/13-radial-slick

Good to meet Scott and Adam and catch up with Ali and Gail again! Hope to see you all again at the next meet. Of course all the regulars turned up together with our esteemed WSCC chairman who came bearing gifts too! Overall a good start to 2017, watch this space for Warwickshire area news and events.

We will see! See you on Sunday Russ!

Wheres breakfast?

At this age of car I would be looking away from Porsche. They seem to have no end of engine problems. My brothers Gt3 had a couple of engine out jobs and there were no end of boxster engines dumped out back. Z4M or lotus would be my choice. But overall I think your strategy makes sense David

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