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I live only 3 miles from them so the 'force' is strong. I doubt you or @finkangel could resist from such a short distance They are nice car focused people to deal with too.

OK... This might be the quickest U-turn in forum history but... I had fell out of love with the Westie experience because it was all getting hard work. And I was still needing to sort the gear box, sort the choppy ride etc. All of those jobs were frankly beyond me seeing how changing 4 wheels takes all day and a long lie down afterwards. That's why I started to investigate other fun options that were hassle free. But having done some reading I would be looking at dropping at least £5k to £10k over and above the two cars (Westie and ST) plus some potentially high ownership costs. Having spoken to Grizlee at length (when we should have been working) I reckon if I called BTEC (30 mins away) and said "come collect it on a trailer, do the gear box, shocks and get it through the MoT and charge me what you like" I would still have change from £2k So yes I would be dodging the mechanical aspects of Westie ownership, but if I wanted to play with spanners I will go buy some Meccano. I just want to drive the damn thing. And the thought process continues (and I'm prepared to be corrected) in that the total yearly Porker owner ship costs for stuff like fuel, tires, insurance etc would totally pay for somebody else to do the spannering. And for all of Clarkson's comments that "you're not a petrol head till you've owned an Alfa"... Sorry but a Westie / Caterham sort of car make you WAY more of a petrol head than an Alfa. Plus if you have a Xflow, you literally are a petrol head cos it spits the stuff at you. So.. thoughts..?

Honda S2000 would be my choice

cant fault that logic, although outside would look tartier...

We are back at the 3 sisters this year on the 9th of April so if you have spent the winter modifying your retro? Wanna see what it'll do? Come and show us at the Retrobeutes Track Attack @ The 3 Sisters Racecourse Wigan If getting your car on track isn't your thing,we still want to see it so bring your car and park it trackside and watch the action. We will be having a trophy again this year for best car. Last years winner was Jason Johns with his stunning Ascona Gate entry for car & Driver: £5.00 10am Passengers in car gate entry: £1.00 £3.00 if you park outside and walk in 10 laps on track: £20.00, £5.00 for a passenger (only 1 in car at once) Helmet hire is available on the day if you don’t have your own. Food and drink available to buy on the day These days are set up for car enthusiasts to get together to get their road legal cars out on the circuit. Postcode WN4 8DD www.facebook.com/retrobeutes last year http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/186414/retrobeutes-sister-circuit-wigan-april?page=1&scrollTo=2169825

So far a good number have already entered so up to the rest of you to get your finger out......No sign of Ladies yet!

You said you were ' going back to work to earn money'. I can only see car parts and Amazon there, which is my eyes is not work..........cant get the staff......

well if its just the spannering that's the issue then yeah keep it and pay for someone else to do it - you might even find a fellow local enthusiast looking to earn a bit on the side which could work well both ways (for the bits an pieces) must admit excluding upgrades my westy has probably been the lowest cost of ownership car I have ever had - and the most rewarding I must have done maybe 40 or more track days (plus lots of road mileage) and the only problem I had was a rear wheelhub bearing failure at the end of a track day (nut came loose which caused the issue) - other than that it has just been tyres, oil changes, brake pads (and the upgrades which were down to choice) Try running a tin top with depreciation and heavier car running costs for the same sort of money Go on keep it you know you want to

Sorry, but simultaneously owning a Westie, TVR, Lotus and Caymen would be cheaper and less hassle than the above..!

Forgot to mention, the girls loved it though John, if you want to use it as a tool to bang a goldigger.

Great minds think alike Arrived this morning

I'd put the carbon side inwards-facing. At least that way you can get people down on their knees and shine a torch up your grill to show them your latest bit of carbon

Just to counter argue S2000 - I ran one for 3 years back when they were new(ish) and even back then it never really felt very special. It handled ok and was quickish, but didnt really excel in any area for me. And it was hard to drift.

Yeah, I have the same thought

OK, need help to deride Carbon on the inside or out side??

I'm a Porsche fan too, David (xtr2turbo) is right to warn about the engines though, you just need to do a lot of research and buy right. I think you're in a sensible thought process and at the end of the day it only has to be the right decision for you. Marto and I have just bought a cheap Mazda mx5 - MK1 1.6 - including the cost of a cage, bucket seats, alloy wheels and tyres, new rear brake calipers and pads all around, we're into a total cost of £270 each. Just did a trackday at Bedford on Saturday and it was the most fun I've ever had, such a rewarding driver's car. If I were you, I'd be tempted to take a punt on a very cheap one on eBay with a little MOT remaining, go and hoon it about for a while and then make a decision. You won't be scratching that Porsche itch but you might save yourself a small fortune.

If you've always wanted a Porsche go out and do it. Life's too short.

Cheers Tom for the measurement. I'll stop being a tight wad and order some up. I see burtons and rally design sell it by the cm.

All masked up ready for the templates

Gonna do mine soon, lots of in-expensive lube pumps out there...! Just be careful when googling lube pump

We changed the gearbox oil last week. Although it was filled from underneath, if you can access the filler hole from your tunnel you can fill it from there. You need a piece of spare hose and a big syringe/plunger as shown in the picture. My gear box is a MT75.