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Got to admit that I have no issues with conspiracy theories per se - one of my best mates is of a similar opinion to Mulder and hence I have heard all of this before in great detail - and have looked at it in depth many times at his insistence. What I do get a tad irate about is the evangelical fervour with which this dubious nonsense (purely my opinion) is pushed upon us. Reasoned argument and debate is great - just stop trying to sell it like we are all stupid ignorant morons who are incapable of doing anything other than saying yes to the establishment. Now please present reasoned arguments in a manner befitting the gentlemanly nature of this fine automobile loving establishment Oh and show me an example where someone has faithfully recreated the moonwalk footage in a studio.

This is now sitting on my drive... Big grins tonight Thanks for all your help Luke!

Some film of a space mission from 1972 that I am pretty sure was faked in a studio. Enjoy! Jen And a link to an analysis of all the things that are wrong in this film. http://www.stuffucanuse.com/fake_moon_landings/moon_landings.htm

Can you get the wife a part time job to cover the cost.

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Hi Mark what's your best price on the arches and the stone guards posted? Thanks Matt.

2nd that yellow and black here to..

Sold subject to the usual stuff that was quick I am now going to cry

Hi, I absolutely second good lighting in the garage. I have seven small 150W floodlamps at ceiling level around my generously sized single garage - which also cover all my personal heating needs on all but the coldest winter evenings! As regards tool organisation, I now have three multi-drawer cabinets and by regularly putting my tools away, the searching time has been vastly reduced! Whilst building my Eleven, I always used to lay out the parts for each stage, read the build guide, sleep on it then assembly / installation the next day always went well (or a subsequent day after I had worked out a better method after thinking things over more). As regards things I couldn't do without: Plenty of bench space - minimum enough to comfortably sit a rigid axle on (or the biggest single component / assembly of your car) Air powered riveter - no more "nips" as the hand gun snaps shut. Solder station (posh soldering iron), Heat Shrink Tubing and Car Builder Solutions' good terminal crimps (that put the "double fold" into the connectors where they grip the cables. 1/4" socket set and extension bars - small and easy to fit into spaces and used for most assembly jobs unless big nuts/bolts are encountered and high torques needed. A good battery drill / driver (and sharp drill bits and step drills in a range of sizes). Good quality sidecutters - mine are £30 insulated CK ones that I have had for nearly 30 years now. My plumbers shears are nearer 40 years old - and I was given them by a steel fixer on a site so I have no idea how old they really are! Cable tie installation tool - that tensions and neatly cuts off the tail (another use for the sidecutters). I have a scar on my arm where my Sunbeam Lotus got me with a sharp cable tie end that had been fitted and cut off by someone else, so I get properly OCD now ensuring that all ends are trimmed square and flush. Aluminium racing trolley jack - low entry and light weight A good stock of fixings such as nuts / bolts, P-Clips, Cable Ties, Saddles, Electrical Connectors and Covers DAB radio in the corner of the garage - particularly Sunday afternoons for Johnny Walker's "Sounds of the Seventies"! Simon

Ouch, and thanks Dave, my lunch is now back up and over my keyboard.

I don't want to get involved in the passions of the argument, but simply to point out that one has not only to guard against fixed ideas about perceived 'truth', but also against applying earthbound rules to a completely airless, low gravity environment. Dust would fall rapidly and like buckshot - even that has 'windage'. The rules do not apply. Also pincushion and barrel distortion on unusual lens focal lengths can mislead the eye. If they had faked it, and maybe they did to a certain extent, I don't know (nor care that much), but surely they, with top grade physicists on the payroll, would have made a flawless job of simple things like shadows and dust behaviour?

When one's ability to detect light humour or gentle snarking is lost, knee-jerk defensiveness becomes the shield of the entrenched. - Captain Colonial

Sounds so much like an innuendo!