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Ah, the benefits of working from home today; just been to the garage for a quick look: M6 stand-offs with the rubber grommets still attached. As you can see, I found a couple. along with the dog-leg one that goes down on the front right of older blocks. if you want one, just PM me your address and I'll post one out. (I don't want anything for it, just drop something in your favourite charity box next time you pass it!)

Not ideal as I'm in Bicester (near Oxford) but if you're passing by, you're welcome to call in. I've tried to PM you with my phone number but not sure whether that works for non-members at the moment.

Wear them of course.

Chaz, Let me try to answer these questions the best that I can. I am sure your have the clubs best interest to heart. However just because this is the way its been doesnt mean things cant and should not change. In addition whatever the change there will always be those that disagree. I am answering for committee decision, I am not the committee. If you have any issue with me or the way any of the committee have behaved or are behaving in contrary to the club constitution then you should raise that. Frankly I for one am happy to stand down on a member vote online and not wait till an AGM. When and in what way and under what circumstances were either the WSCC or a member compromised legally and/or financially when conducting bulk buys on the WSCC boardroooms, How many times has this happened. This was a reason given by both Scott and ACW for the changes. I have trawled through the search function and had access to the moderator records when acting as a moderator. I can see no evedence of what has been given as a reason for change. Where is the proof of what was given as a reason for change? The only bulk buy issues I am aware of are those of a few members reapeatedly attempting (and succeeding) to circumvent the commercial posting rules by selling products through the for sale sections of the boardrooms. There have been a host of reasons given why the committee came to its decision. No one is specifically higher than another. It is this thread that has highlighted the legal aspects not the committee. In fact interestingly this thread has brought up more legal issues that the committee has previously considered. I think I in light of this would personally ban bulk buys, but that is not the committees agreed way forward. Anyway I digress, the reasons include but are not limited to: a. Attempts by people to circumvent commercial posting rules. Since these are now allowed via trade member (which lots of people agree is a good thing - I think you do to? - not closed house etc. benfit of members etc.) it makes sense that bulk buys by companies should be done as trade members. b. The committee does not want members involved in the flow of monies between companies and members for all sorts of sensible reasons. c. The committee does not like the approach of some previous bulk buys where the member are paying for one free for the organiser or where the organiser benefits in some pecuniary way. This is not the way the club works. We put in time for the benefit of the club as is it the right thing to do not to make a quick buck. Therefore bulk buys should be direct to remove this issue in the committees opinion. The benefit of a bulk buy should be the same for all members. d. Bulk buys have been successful and have failed in the past. The committee wants to have companies offering member discounts rather than bulk buys which has worked well for people in the past and therefore doesn't depend on making numbers. Also this means bulk buys can benefit the whole membership though some small funds to the club as well as discounts to the members. Remember Ive never smashed my car up on the road, but I still buy insurance and dont drive like a dick, because I want to keep it that way. Are you suggesting your would prefer the committee to sit down and wait for issues then knee jerk. Not my idea of responsible behaviour and fortunately not the way the committee works. There have been issues in the past of the nature of the above and were acting to prevent larger ones in the future and aligning bulk buys with the other changes. 2. What specific protection over and above the UK sale of goods act is the club providing members who participate in WSCC bulk buys? Enhanced protection for members participating in bulk buys was given as a reason for change. We are not. As a club we cant afford to cover all liabilities. I suspect our insurance may give some protection. Rather we try to limit our liability. By having members deal direct with trade members and prevent monies going via members reduces risk to members (both buyer and bulk buy organiser). It does not remove it. However most commercial organisations will carry insurance and depending on the way you purchase the goods and the value you may also be covered by items like Section 75. If you buy through a member in most cases you will not be covered by any section 75 or similar cover. (this is just an example please dont discuss the benefits or otherwise of section 75 for pages please). You can see the extremes of opinion (and they are just opinion) on liabilities from there arent any through to if my Verona jack hurts me I get a free Gite. 3. Why were the membership not consulted over what they felt that the changes should be and how they should be implimented? It's their club afterall. This should have been done via the AO group to the members, there should have been a period of consultation with the members and the AO community should have had the opportunity to pass feedback and views back up the line. Many of the members I have spoken to since the changes were announced on the general boardrooms feel that the committee has "ridden slipshod" over them. Could not these changes have waited untill the next AGM where at least some discussion could have taken place all be it to a limited audience I guess the members need to decide what the powers of the committee should have. These are defined in the club constitution. These changes have come about after years fo discussion with the members. The biggest and expected upset is from Forum Users, who couldnt attend an AGM anyway. The AGM is so poorly supported to date I can only assume that people are relatively happy or dont care about the WSCC. Since these threads prove the latter not to be the case, I can only assume that the committee is generally considered to be doing a good job. These changes were announced ahead of here on the AO forum. This was to make sure that the committee hadnt missed any angle as far as discussion goes. Nothing we hadn't already considered was raised. This isnt a right or wrong answer debate. I just get the fun job of been Nasty Web man making changes. If the committee have to bring changes to AGM the club wont last. Were not taking the club in or out of the EU. Were not a dictator - were explaining why. The club need members, a website does not a club make. The club is made up of the other events, the local areas, massive national events like Stoneliegh as well as like minded individual coming together. We have to prioritise the rights of members over non members, the committee would be negligent to the members if that wasnt the case. The committee has to look at ways of getting the best for members, but for the long term viability of the club we have to attract people to become members. That has more to do with the events and areas that the web site. However through the online membership of the website, combined with the efforts of the committee and especially Scott the Membership Sec (who literally puts in hours each day) a decine in membership has thus far been reversed. If it turns out were wrong on this one, then necessary changes will be made, and we wont be waiting till the AGM to fix the issues, but we will discuss and agree by vote as a committee. Chaz - I sincerely hope this addresses your concerns. Lets look what the outcome is after a few months and if the committee have got it wrong you can have my head, and if it turns out to be bearable you can buy me a pint.

From that description it doesn't sound like the fuel pump is wired through the immobiliser, just the starter and ignition. Are you sure you want to remove the steering lock - its useful if towing to stop the wheels moving about and loosening your straps? There's no real danger in having some sort of fuel pump cutout. If it gets tripped the engine will just stop (or not start) - you won't do damage unless you crash because of it. The aircraft starter button - very simple to wire, just figure out the wiring to your ignition barrel - find which wire is the switched live and which is the starter live and wire connect the two through the button so when you press it you are making the starter wire live.

John as it is just up the road from me I tried to get the Lancashire Area booked in this year but entries were closed well in advance of the event, I had the details sent to me last week and I had planned to email my local area to see what interest I could drum up to put a Westfield display on I will put something up on here as well,, the only stumbling block is the £3 entry why we have to pay to put a display on beats me ??