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I wonder if the nay sayers here would give an honest answer to a few simple questions? If it was 20 years ago and this was a sports club, or a working mans club or stamp collectors club or a photography club would you pay a sub to be a member because it's your hobby and you like to gather with likeminded people and have a chat? I'm guessing yes. Would you expect it to be run responsibly, indemnifying you against losses suffered by the club? Yup... And would you want the organsers to take the time to impart information by way of printed or faxed media when there was information to be imparted, to keep members up to date with club goings on in some easy to assimilate manner? Again, I'm guessing yes. Would you like to participate in club events at venues hired by the club and for a nominal (probably cost) price without worrying about the organiser profiteering? I'm thinking yes. Would you like to buy gifts, souveniers, shirts, hats key rings, stickers etc to show your allegiance and/or your support? I'll stick my neck out and say yes again. ==================================================== Roll forwards 20 years. This is that club. We just happen to have a web site that is partially available to anyone walking in, something that would not be available FOREVER to anyone wanting to take advantage of clubs in days of yore. You'd be EXPECTED to cough up if you kept on turning up, and you'd have to deal with someone face to face and explain why you think you should be exempt from the (quite ridiculously reasonable) subscription. If you didn't pay, you'd not be made welcome for very long. In fact you'd probably be told to jog on in no uncertain terms. Well guess what? This is a CLUB just like those. It just happens to have a bulletin board on the web that allows non members to register a complaint that they can't get it all for free. Name one place where you CAN get it all for free. And by all, I mean a magazine, AO's and their support, events, venue hire, indemnity insurance and all the other things that the WSCC supply and pay for with Monopoly money, 'cos apparently it's all free on the internet... If you want to be part of it, pay up. If you don't want to be part of it, fair enough you are free to seek satisfaction elsewhere. But remember, there is not one single club or organisation anywhere in the world that would allow an "outsider" to have a say in how it's rules are formed or implemented. I mean really, is there any more ridiculous a suggestion? If I was to log on to [insert bulletin board name here] and tell them it was all rubbish and they should do it in a way that suits me best, just how welcome would I be made to feel? It's not difficult to think that one through, is it?

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As this is The Grumpy Thread, I have "liked" your comment just to irritate you, Jethro Bodine.

for a bunch of old men whos hobby is to sit in the shed with an electric heater tinkering with a plastic car i think its brilliant! as many have said, it lacks the max power aspect! which is perfect if you ask me (and i'm 21) as soon as i fall back into regular work i plan on becoming a membership just on the basis of i waste away a big chunk of time reading through things on here and enjoy the banter from the people on the forum. and the only car i own is a burgundy S reg escort estate as blatters said, try walk into a local club and tell them its a sh!t... see how well you get on and besides, for the nominal fee, you even get pictures of steve D and the chairman naked in some stinging nettles! what more could you ask for?

Yes cap'n you sell out yank!

Arrh annoying bit on the radio about people damaging their car due to sat navs directing them wrong! If your too stupid to realise the turning onto the railway line was wrong then you either deserve what you get or your too much of a dumb **** to be driving ... Same goes for anyone who ends up in a river or stuck in a field etc.

Dont get me wrong I am not looking for an instant response as I know its not always possible if you want to construct a reply. But if all you need to do is a thanks then it would be nice if you could just say so.

Yet the place is tainted with coach loads of Yanks with no dress sense and ten-metre voices for a one-metre conversation - they repulse me and I make no secret of it (why do only thick, wealthy, obnoxious Yanks decide to travel, leaving all the kind, generous ones at home? Apart from me, of course, I'm wonderful.). huh, u r out of touch and sell out yank...stay there!!

Hells Grandads

Damm rude if you ask me....... even if your answer didn't help!!! I miss the "notify me when read" option

I have to say, this endless harping on about the search function really does fascinate me. Until the new Boardroom was launched, for various (known) technical reasons the search function on the old Boardroom hadn't actually worked properly for years. A fact that became obvious really quickly the moment you tried using it in anger; yet I don't remember more than half a dozen or so people EVER actually bringing this up. Yet now it's a deal breaker. It's a strange world sometimes.