lochnessside Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Hello all Just joined today as Iam about to buy the above car with 8k on the clock It was factory built in 2009Lower chassisChrome packBoot box lidContoured dashBonnet locksSpare wheel and tyre12v socket Typr 9 gear box with side curtains and hood Any ideas about what it might be worth. It is very good condition but I cannot upload photos.. I am too stupid but will try again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Banks Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Welcome. There's a lot of info ion the FAQs section: http://forum.wscc.co.uk/forum/index.php/forum/94-general-info/ about purchasing and uploading pics. Have you a link to the car you are looking at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lochnessside Posted August 16, 2013 Author Share Posted August 16, 2013 Is photobucket the only way to do it? Can I not simply cut and paste? I have no link other than some photos on my PC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterg Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 No, you cannot cut and past, the photos need to be hosted on a website, whether it be Picasa, Photobucket or even on the WSCC Gallery within this site... (don't ask me how or where to so that as I don't use it as my photos are all on Picasa... Link to the Gallery,see the 'Upload' button top right http://forum.wscc.co.uk/forum/index.php/gallery/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lochnessside Posted August 16, 2013 Author Share Posted August 16, 2013 Ok I will think again as I was trying to let you experts cast your critical eye over my soon to be purchased toy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTR2Turbo Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Value somewhere between £8.5k and £10.5k depending upon detailed spec and condition. e.g. seats, instruments, spec of type 9 box, diff etc The 1.6 sigma is a light and nice all alloy little engine but does not have much tuning potential compared to the 2.0 duratec so will put off some buyers. But factory built tends to help with some buyers. Would be a great economical touring car by the sounds of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lochnessside Posted August 16, 2013 Author Share Posted August 16, 2013 Great just the info I was after. You make me feel better as that is the range I had worked out. You guys are quick to come back thanks!! Is a Sigma 1600 engine factory built 2009 now called a Zetec engine as I seem to get confused when I try to search about the engine type. I understood the sigma was replaced by a re named engine the Zetec? Other info i have about the car is as follows. Does this change your thoughts How may previous owners 2 owners What BHP is the engine and I assume it is fuel injected 1.6 Ford Sigma engine, fuel injected 155bhp Any tweaks to engine or is it standard upgraded by factory Full service history no Which model is it? I assume it is a SEi Yes SEi Does it have a live rear axel or independent rear suspension independent Does it have a limited slip rear diff no Does it have adjustable suspension? Is it 1 way or 2 way adjustable 2 way Does it have up rated bushes , anti roll bars and rose joints no bars but rose jointed What gear box is fitted Ford MT75 or a type 9 type 9 What type of sump – is it a dry sump or baffled wet sump Does it have a Westfield quick rack (steering) standard Brakes 4 pot or 2 pot 2 pot Does it have a quick release steering wheel no Does it have a fully electric heated front windscreen yes Does it have a full or half tonneau not sure What are the tyres size and make 195/50/15s Does it have a heater fitted yes Does it have a standard fuel tank or is a long range one fitted standard I know but want to confirm it is supplied with weather gear – side screen and roof Yes in blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Dastardly Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Welcome. I'm a wee bit north of you, but happy to meet up if I ever get some time. My zetec is 150 bhp and is pretty quick, at least till 70 then it gets windy and noisy. I can see me going for another 20 or 30 hp but it's still won't disappoint you IMO. Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lochnessside Posted August 16, 2013 Author Share Posted August 16, 2013 I have just remembered I live in the Great Glen so the highland boundalry fault is perhaps not so accurate. Trying to be too smart and vague Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTR2Turbo Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Great just the info I was after. You make me feel better as that is the range I had worked out. You guys are quick to come back thanks!! Is a Sigma 1600 engine factory built 2009 now called a Zetec engine as I seem to get confused when I try to search about the engine type. I understood the sigma was replaced by a re named engine the Zetec? Other info i have about the car is as follows. Does this change your thoughts How may previous owners 2 owners What BHP is the engine and I assume it is fuel injected 1.6 Ford Sigma engine, fuel injected 155bhp Any tweaks to engine or is it standard upgraded by factory Full service history no Which model is it? I assume it is a SEi Yes SEi Does it have a live rear axel or independent rear suspension independent Does it have a limited slip rear diff no Does it have adjustable suspension? Is it 1 way or 2 way adjustable 2 way Does it have up rated bushes , anti roll bars and rose joints no bars but rose jointed What gear box is fitted Ford MT75 or a type 9 type 9 What type of sump – is it a dry sump or baffled wet sump Does it have a Westfield quick rack (steering) standard Brakes 4 pot or 2 pot 2 pot Does it have a quick release steering wheel no Does it have a fully electric heated front windscreen yes Does it have a full or half tonneau not sure What are the tyres size and make 195/50/15s Does it have a heater fitted yes Does it have a standard fuel tank or is a long range one fitted standard I know but want to confirm it is supplied with weather gear – side screen and roof Yes in blue Other items that will influence price .. RAC or standard rollbar Type of seats Analogue or digital instruments Wide track front wishbones ARBs what shocks - Nitron or standard AP or sierra / golf calipers Detachable arches ECU / Throttle bodies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lochnessside Posted August 16, 2013 Author Share Posted August 16, 2013 Not sure I know what ARB are what? What wide track front wishbones would look like what? Not sure I wouldknow a nitron shock if it hit me but I know they are 2 way adjustable AP calipers are I assume a make. I will need to check Seats are standard with just normal car seat belts ECU/throttle bodes - you are now sepaking a diffrent lanaguage Is a Sigma 1600 engine factory built car in 2009 now called a Zetec engine as I seem to get confused when I try to search about the engine type. I understood the sigma was replaced by a re named engine the Zetec. So Do I actuallu have a 1600ccc Zetec? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Colonial Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 ARB = anti-roll bar AP = Automotive Products (brake brand) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhett Turner - Black Country AO Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 I think the Sigma and Zetec are different Ford engines. The Zetec comes in 1800 and 2000 cc capacities (and there are different variants, black top, silver top, st170 etc) the sigma comes as a 1600 or rather I've only seen the 1600 Sigma in a Westfield. (i'm not sure if there are different capacities) As standard the 2Lt Zetec fitted to a factory Westfield produces 150Bhp and that's quite a bit of fun so if the Sigma has 155Bhp then it will still be quite a bit of fun on the road. The Sigma engine will be lighter than the Zetec though so the power to weight ratio will be better than the stock Zetec car. What I suspect is that to get 155Bhp from the Sigma it has been tuned as there may not be much more to give, so if you do get the "I want more power" bug then you will need to swap car or engine. I would also want to know if the 155Bhp is verifiable. Where with the 2lt Zetec if you do want "more power" then there are things that can be done to take it over 200Bhp (though as the power increases these modification become increasingly more complex and therefore expensive) Out of interest I drove both a stock Sigma engined car and a stock Zetec Engined car when I did the Westfield experience day and even though at the time I was building a Zetec car preferred the Sigma engined car on the day, even used it to get the best time around the course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lochnessside Posted August 16, 2013 Author Share Posted August 16, 2013 Thanks for the feedback I thought the Sigma developed into the Zetec by the time my 2009 car came along --- the sigma was now a 1600 zetec? You seem to suggest not? I can find very littel about more modern variants as it seems they are now called a Zetec. See section lifted from www Introduced in 1995, the Ford Sigma is a small straight-4 automobile engine sold by Ford Motor Company. First evolution of engines were sold as the "Zetec-SE" (although frequently badged as Zetec-S, not to be confused with the trim level). After the upgrade Ford renamed Sigma to Duratec.[1] Last upgrade of engine is named Duratec Ti-VCT. The engine was introduced in the mid-1990s and production continues through the present. Like the SHO V6 and SHO V8, the Sigma was designed with help from Yamaha. Intended for Ford's smaller models, it was intended to replace the older HCS (a derivative of the even older Kent unit) and smaller capacity CVH units I only know it is a 155bhp as the factory told the guy Iam buying from that is what they built . I will find out in the next few days when I actually see the car rather for real. I will try to post some photos It is nice to hear you liked the sigma more than the zetec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SootySport Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Hi Nessie, Sounds like you'll have a really nice car considering it's your 1st. Westfield. It will seem fast whatever engine you have in it, so enjoy it forever and ever. Regards from down Sarf. Essex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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