SootySport Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Riveting news! Whats next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubs Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Riveting news! Whats next? Oooow popped one there nicely...! Tubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SootySport Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 I just couldn't help myself there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dommo Posted September 4, 2011 Author Share Posted September 4, 2011 There's gotta be more riveting puns in here somewhere... Today's task - pedals. The bulkhead and exterior panels had arrived from Westfield, so once the bulkhead panel had been fitted it was time to identify which spacers they referred to. After first picking out the rear shock spacers, I managed to get the right ones. They certainly fit better than the rear shock spacers. Now, the next trick, find the rest of the parts that are listed in the manual. Yeah right. 60mm M8 stud for the clutch pedal? Can only find a 70mm. Not that I can find either on their pick list! Ah well, it fits, so it'll do. As per other build diaries I've read, I didn't fit the clutch master cylinder to aid fitting the brake pipes later. Onto the brake pedal/master cylinder then. This one wants a 55mm M8 bolt, as does the accelerator pedal. Number of 55mm M8 bolts supplied: none. I've got one 60mm and one 50mm though, and they clear the 70mm stud fine. It kind of makes sense to me as the accelerator pedal is thinner than the brake pedal. I've used them for now, but I'll double check with Westfield tomorrow (along with other bits which I'll go onto). I had the right bolts for the master cylinder though, and the right number of them. They end up flush with the nuts though so I hope the IVA man will be satisfied. Onwards with the accelerator pedal. Had to prise the brackets apart as with the clutch pedal but no real bother. Job done, onto some more panneling! The passenger side inner footwell panel looked like a prime candidate. The manual suggests the drivers side is GRP and the passenger side is ali. Should be easy to spot! Hmm... another victim of the LHD panel saga? That'll be on the list to ask Westfield about then. Time for a stock check of panels really, looks like the drivers bulkhead wasn't the only difference like they suggested. Can't see the IVA man being particularly chuffed with the kerbside kneecapper there. Last part I couldn't identify was this one: It's thicker than the other panels, and I've not found a home for it. I'll stick the pictures in an email to Westfield for them to comment. All this means of course is there's not a massive amount I can currently do going into my week off work! Still, it's a marathon, not a sprint. Or something along those lines... 123.5 hours and 32.57% of the way through the entire project apparently! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark (smokey mow) Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 I had the right bolts for the master cylinder though, and the right number of them. They end up flush with the nuts though so I hope the IVA man will be satisfied. Making progress Dom If you can't see at least one full thread of the bolt then I'd suggest changing the bolts for something longer. It'd be a shame to fail IVA on something so trivial. While you're checking through you're bags of wrong parts, measure the length of the bolts for the top of the rear uprights. IIRC they should be 120mm long but just about everyone gets 100mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SootySport Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Good progress Dommo, you're getting things done, unlike Mark who likes CAD drawing a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dommo Posted September 4, 2011 Author Share Posted September 4, 2011 Ta, I'll check both of those points before calling them tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dommo Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 It's only when I go to update this thread do I realise I've forgotten to measure those bolts. Doh! Next time... The scuttle panel arrived today, still waiting on the drivers side inner footwell panel. I'll keep pushing for it, rather than fit the metal one I have now. A pet hate of mine is cars without a footrest, and I know it'll just bug me if I don't have one! Waiting now is certainly better than trying to retrofit another panel later! I drilled the passenger inner footwell piece but haven't fitted it. I could do with the space when drilling the drivers side. Todays job was the seat back panel, and the couple of rivets it requires. First up, test fit. Looks like a couple of cutouts had been missed in the middle of the uprights. No problem, quickly measured them up and cut them out. Another minor trim and it fitted like a glove. Drill the holes, then wait until the evening for a few mates to turn up. I won't be popping all those rivets myself! And yes, that is cake sat on the tunnel! Back to checking the other day's work, and this is what I have on the brake master cylinder: I think I'll replace those bolts with 30mm ones, the manual specifies 25mm which just seems flush and I'd rather have some threads showing for the IVA. Hopefully keeping the IVA in mind at all times will make life easier in the long run. Finally, I spotted the odd flaw in the powdercoating: It looks like there isn't full coverage around some of the welds. I'll be sure to paint over them when I'm painting the hubs. Don't want the chassis to start rusting anytime soon! That's it for now, won't be doing any more until the week after next. I'm already a month ahead of plan so the missus dragging me away on holiday isn't a disaster. Aside from spending valuable Westfield money. It should also give my brother enough time to fix his air compressor so I can get an air rivet gun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingbanana Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 I noticed the Copperslip on the brake pedal area... Just in case... - It is anti-seize, not a lubricant, so don't use it instead of grease on pivots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dommo Posted September 8, 2011 Author Share Posted September 8, 2011 Interesting... manual stated copper grease explicitly. Might scan it ahead and see what else it says for other stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark (smokey mow) Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 I noticed the Copperslip on the brake pedal area...Just in case... - It is anti-seize, not a lubricant, so don't use it instead of grease on pivots. Personally I wouldn't be putting grease on the pedal pivots, they're plated and bushed so should rotate freely enough by themselves. IMO adding grease will only attract all the muck from the sole of your shoes and shorten not prolong their life. FWIW mine were installed with a smidge of copper slip as per the build manual. Edit to add that anti-sieze is what I'd want on a pedal pivot. No point in using a lubricant as they're not exactly a high speed rotating part that needs it to reduce friction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCB Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Last part I couldn't identify was this one: It's thicker than the other panels, and I've not found a home for it. I'll stick the pictures in an email to Westfield for them to comment. All this means of course is there's not a massive amount I can currently do going into my week off work! Still, it's a marathon, not a sprint. Or something along those lines... 123.5 hours and 32.57% of the way through the entire project apparently! This panel goes at the front of the chassis for the battery to sit on, (between the wishbones, behind the radiator) Hope this makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooch Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 So why is that panel included for a Mazda SDV kit? The air box will sit where that's meant to go. Westfield must spend a fortune on buying and delivering stuff that isn't needed, then sending out stuff that has been missed off the picking list. It looks like it happens to everyone so must either be screwing their profits or pushing the prices up. For example, I've got two whopping great floor pans for a non lowered body which I'll never use, which were delivered with my (lowered seat) Mazda SDV kit for some reason, but replaced with the right parts later*. Barking.... *Can anyone use them? Free to a good home if you cover the postage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingbanana Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 That is interesting that it is specified in the notes. To be clear, I have never built a Westfield from scratch, but am a mechanical engineer who has lived with various vehicles from an early age. Copaslip is an anti-seize compound, designed to prevent a static-joint (such as a nut on bolt, but also areas such as the plain section of a bolt shaft in a hole) from being hard to undo. This is primarily by preventing corrosion between the mating surfaces, but also by placing some lubricant at the interfaces. Oil and Grease are both lubricants, and anti-seize has lubricating properties, though its primary purpose is different. A high speed rotating part with a plain bearing would use oil, as the speed of rotation will allow hydrodynamic lubrication to be established, and grease would either disappear, or create too much friction. On a low-speed part, or one with limited travel, such as a pedal pivot, oil would tend to run out of the bearing, or be squeezed out under load. Grease could be thought of as oil that doesn't trickle away, though it can also cope with high contact stress, so is well-suited to a pivot. I agree that often grease can catch dust and dirt, leading to a nice grinding paste, but a relatively close-fitting joint won't allow much to work right in to the contact faces. I suspect Westfield want a bit of something slippy in the joint, and don't want a greasy mess to attract dirt, hence the suggestion of Copaslip. An alternative might be a drylube such as graphite powder or spray PTFE, though Copaslip is unlikely to destroy the pedal pivots, so run with that. Anyway, I pointed out more for a general note, though I think something in the pedal joint would be sensible, as it is a metal-metal bearing. Very interesting to read about your progress on the build- looking good! FB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dommo Posted September 8, 2011 Author Share Posted September 8, 2011 So why is that panel included for a Mazda SDV kit? The air box will sit where that's meant to go. Westfield must spend a fortune on buying and delivering stuff that isn't needed, then sending out stuff that has been missed off the picking list. It looks like it happens to everyone so must either be screwing their profits or pushing the prices up. For example, I've got two whopping great floor pans for a non lowered body which I'll never use, which were delivered with my (lowered seat) Mazda SDV kit for some reason, but replaced with the right parts later*. Barking.... *Can anyone use them? Free to a good home if you cover the postage. I've been thinking exactly the same thing! It's crazy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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