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I did my TPlink a disservice, just did a speed test (speedof.me) and got 42mbps down and 20mbps up with a latency of 21mS. Not bad for shed-net.

 

This is with it working in link mode just relaying the BT WiFi router - same SSID etc.

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Tried these last night..and you guessed it.. I couldn't get them working..got them saying WiFi ok..but no internet..after much messing around I disconnected them all so only router left plugged in..still no internet 

Half hour or so on phone to helpful EE tech guy router working and internet ok..

Tried the tp link again stil no good 

Put BT ones back in and all ok..

I no I don't have any patience, and don't like crawling around on the floor..and can't reason with things I can't see.. but I really thought or hoped it would be straight forward!

Will try again at the weekend when a bit less wound up after a day at work!

 

 

 

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Plug the TP Links in to where you want them to be. 

The top light is power. Should be on.

The second nlight is "link", IE they can see each other. If the second light his not on, plress the Sync button on both of them within 60 seconds of each other. If after a minute there is still no second light take them in to the main house and connect them to two close-by sockets. If the second light comes on, they're working and it's the electrical system that is not letting them see each other.

 

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Really, it should be straight-forward so long as you follow the instructions correctly.....

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20 minutes ago, CraigHew said:

Really, it should be straight-forward so long as you follow the instructions correctly.....

I did actually try reading them, which is unlike me....

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I dont ususlly, but just replaced a security camera with a Reo link which was very very specific regarding setup....

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I went with a recommendation off this forum and bought TP-Link Deco M4 Whole Home Mesh Wi-Fi System off Amazon.

 

My Virgin router does not like being in modem mode, so hid its normal WiFi and just use the Deco round the house. Much more stable and a great buy.

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Just now, a15cro said:

I went with a recommendation off this forum and bought TP-Link Deco M4 Whole Home Mesh Wi-Fi System off Amazon.

 

My Virgin router does not like being in modem mode, so hid its normal WiFi and just use the Deco round the house. Much more stable and a great buy.

 

I don't come across many Virgin hubs in my line of work but the ones I have seen have been 100% terrible with their wifi. I ALWAYS turn it off and install access points.

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10 hours ago, Mole said:

Tried these last night..and you guessed it.. I couldn't get them working..got them saying WiFi ok..but no internet..after much messing around I disconnected them all so only router left plugged in..still no internet 

Half hour or so on phone to helpful EE tech guy router working and internet ok..

Tried the tp link again stil no good 

Put BT ones back in and all ok..

I no I don't have any patience, and don't like crawling around on the floor..and can't reason with things I can't see.. but I really thought or hoped it would be straight forward!

Will try again at the weekend when a bit less wound up after a day at work!

 

 

 


Turn off your router and unplug any powerline devices connected to it, wait for 5 mins or so before turning it back on (we do this because the router may have filled it's DHCP pool and cannot issue any more IP addresses).
Check you have internet access directly through the router, by WiFi or ethernet.
Plug one of the transceivers into the wall and connect it to the router via a network cable, this is required permanently
Plug in your other transceivers and pair them all up
Connect a laptop or PC to the ethernet port on one of the remote transceivers and check for internet.

Once you have internet access via the remote transceiver, all you have to do is access the WiFi units config/settings page in your web browser and get the WiFI set up, I recommend turning on "Enable AP Isolation" in the advanced settings to protect your home network in case you accidentally leave the WiFi insecured during setting up. The address for this should be http://tplinkplc.net but if that doesn't work then you'll have to figure out what IP address you router assigned to it and use that, standard ISP routers can be a bit flaky when it comes to internal DNS (converting names to IP addresses).
 

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11 hours ago, Lyonspride said:

(we do this because the router may have filled it's DHCP pool and cannot issue any more IP addresses).

Unlikely unless the DHCP lease times are totally screwed. I've only seen this once in 13 years as a network engineer and never on a home system where people tend to leave their DHCP settings alone. I could talk at length about the DHCP process. I'd be very surprised if this was an issue.

 

11 hours ago, Lyonspride said:

I recommend turning on "Enable AP Isolation" in the advanced settings to protect your home network in case you accidentally leave the WiFi insecured during setting up.

AP isolation does not protect unsecured wireless networks. It's badly named too. AP isolation stops wireless devices from being able to connect to each other NOT to the network. What will happen if AP Isolation is enabled is if the system uses wifi to connect to Apple TV's or Chromecast or any other "host-to-host" connectivity, enabling AP Isolation will break that feature. AP Isolation is not a security feature for an unsecured network during set up or at any other time. 

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Was going to have a go at it tonight..however last night the back door, which is main one we use, refused to unlock..5 lever mortice in solid oak door and frame.. despite lots of banging, fiddling, different keys, bits of wire, WD 40 (whole other story on line as to good or bad).. I eventually gave up..

Tonight it is get the angry grinder out and cut the lock latch...

WiFi will have to wait until Friday or Saturday!!

 

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2 hours ago, Blatman said:

Unlikly unless the DHCP lease times are totally screwed. I've only seen this one in 13 years as a network engineer and never on a home system where people tend to leave their DHCP settings alone. I could talk at length about the DHCP process I'd be very surprised if this was an issue.

 

AP isolation does not protect unsecured wireless networks. It's badly named too. AP isolation stops wireless devices from being able to connect to each other NOT to the network. What will happen if AP Isolation is enabled is if the system uses wifi to connect to Apple TV's or Chromecast or any other "host-to-host" connectivity, enabling AP Isolation will break that feature. AP Isolation is not a security feature for an unsecured network during set up or at any other time. 


I've had a number of issues with home routers, where the DHCP pool was very small, less than 10 IP's, and the lease time was 48 hours or so, and it required a power cycle to clear the DHCP pool to allow new devices. I had myself a BT home hub which was restricted to 6 devices and the DHCP pool couldn't be changed at all, it got binned pretty quickly when we started getting more networked devices in the house, and now i'm up at around 60-70 devices.

The AP isolation was a suggestion in case the AP set itself up with no WiFi password, i've had this happen before. The AP isolation on these TP-Link devices prevents wireless devices from seeing eachother and from accessing shared (files, folders, printers, etc) resources on the network, whilst allowing internet to pass through, I had to use this earlier last year when setting up a wireless AP for the missus to work from home, until I had a properly configured guest network working on a different subnet.
The reasoning behind this was I didn't trust the laptop she was given, it had all sorts of "tools" that could have allowed someone in her works IT dept, to remotely scan, access and take copies of my network shared files via her laptop, this is absolutely not on. I mean at work expect no privacy, but at home that's MY stuff, MY network and that laptop is there by MY permission only, and I WILL shut that 'excrement' down, I will block ports and I will stop that stuff pinging back to some spotty oik in IT. :)

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24 minutes ago, Mole said:

Was going to have a go at it tonight..however last night the back door, which is main one we use, refused to unlock..5 lever mortice in solid oak door and frame.. despite lots of banging, fiddling, different keys, bits of wire, WD 40 (whole other story on line as to good or bad).. I eventually gave up..

Tonight it is get the angry grinder out and cut the lock latch...

WiFi will have to wait until Friday or Saturday!!

 


Be careful, because they're so much more secure than euro cylinders, there are criminals who go around blocking up these locks with various items, so that the owner breaks the lock and leaves the door without one for a day or two.
 

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