david.c Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 I thought they both had quite nicely proportioned rears Photos please Havn't seen either in the flesh, but think both the 2 & 4 look fantastic in photos David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Gratton Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 I think the angle is exagerated by the cam cover on these VAG engines. The have a head drain, breather that is cast into the cover at an angle - but yes - it is leaning forward in the car a little. I guess this depends on the design of the sump - may be entirely resonable to do so. Strangely, Caterham didn't have a stand at the show. I am quite surprised by this as I really wanted to take a look at their inbound front suspension. I think another company has done the work for this (hence the system been fitted to a car in Circuit Driver several months ago) but still - would be nice to take a look. Wonder if someone is going to do something similar for SEi and SEiW chassis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moomin Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 Ian, AFAIK the Caterham of which you speak is currently under development for their race championship, though I am sure it will filter down to the road cars at some point. Good to see some development coming out of them though ('bout 10 years behind Westfield on the ducted nosecone ). I think it is developed by Caterham themselves, the car you may have seen some time ago is an alternative developed by a company called Freestyle. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Podmore Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 Strangely, Caterham didn't have a stand at the show. I am quite surprised by this as I really wanted to take a look at their inbound front suspension Yes they did, with passenger rides around the hall!! It was in the karting hall (12?). Had the usual range of cars, nothing new of course, they're still working on the W******d copy.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Keene Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 The karting hall? Oh how stupid of me not to look there... Freestyle Motorsports are the other company making inboard for caterham, supposed to be good kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatman Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 Wonder if someone is going to do something similar for SEi and SEiW chassis Some-one in Oz (I think) has "done" inboard suspension on a Westfield. GeeFin posted the pictures a while back, and I'm sure he still has them. I think I saved them to my hard drive too......somewhere....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7SE Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 I thought they both had quite nicely proportioned rears Photos please Havn't seen either in the flesh, but think both the 2 & 4 look fantastic in photos David David, I think you had to have been there to appreciate Karl's comment I've got a photo, which I'll attempt to post later, but it doesn't show their asses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.c Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 David, I think you had to have been there to appreciate Karl's comment I assumed he was refering to some........ahem.........female sales personel David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Gratton Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 As promised - XTR4 pictures. Sorry for the delay - its just today has been a hard day for me - my grandmothers funeral - please spare a thought as she died unexpectedly on new years day new rump and widened rear wheel arches full frontal - and interestingly the bodyshell is now provided in gell-coated form more changes to the cockpit - the dash is now mounted slightly further forward and sides lower than the original XTR2 The new bodyshell offers a removable rear section to ease maintenance and also hides the practically bomb proof VAG lump and transaxle And for those of you whose wallets are slightly deeper - the mightly Porka GT And for those of you with a death wish - we know how potent the Suzuki 1300 is when bolted to an XTR2 - can you imagine what a GSX1000 motor can do to a smart car [][][] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Gratton Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 The pictures are here now. There was a router that needed a kick - and my foot won't reach the office from Milton Keynes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatman Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 Nice pics. Not sure about the hump, but I quite like the look of the installation. With much of the mass of the engine and gearbox being well forward of the rear axle line, I reckon the nay sayers who say it won't handle 'cos of the "extra" weight are going to be eating humble pie......... Looks like a decent package to me....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadscoob Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 I think the hump is a little heavy, could've been made to look a little better by runnnig it all the way down to the back and with vents as someone else said. I also would have changed the rear lights and rear treatment a little - not the cars best feature. But the way the spoiler mounted was loads better, the rear arches gave it a bit of shape, the rollbar cover looks a hell of a lot better too. Overall, I think it looks a good evolution of the XTR2. Seems to go fairly well too - Circuit Driver got it 2 secs quicker round the autodrome than an XTR2, so they must be doing something right....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Stanton Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 But who scribbled X's over the bonnet with a marker pen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.c Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Nice looking car And the smart car...............wheelies anyone David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananaman Posted January 14, 2004 Author Share Posted January 14, 2004 And for those of you with a death wish - we know how potent the Suzuki 1300 is when bolted to an XTR2 - can you imagine what a GSX1000 motor can do to a smart car What about putting one of thoughs Bike V8's (2xR1 engines bolted together 320bhp) in the Smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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