Man On The Clapham Omnibus Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 My Wunoff silencer has a tube through the centre line and it's fixed at one end and slips over a spigot at the other - and rattles like pig! Luckily it rattles at about 3,900rpm and as long as I bring the revs up briskly to >4,500 and then let them drop slowly to test speed, the meter seems to read a lower figure than if I raise the revs slowly through the critical point of silencer rattle. I have pulled the tube on a number of occasions and squeezed the end to tighten it over the spigot, but I risk making an already difficult re-assembly impossible if I over do the squeezing. My Pinto regularly returns a 98dB(A) figure or thereabouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonjh1964 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 15 hours ago, Man On The Clapham Omnibus said: My Wunoff silencer has a tube through the centre line and it's fixed at one end and slips over a spigot at the other - and rattles like pig! Luckily it rattles at about 3,900rpm and as long as I bring the revs up briskly to >4,500 and then let them drop slowly to test speed, the meter seems to read a lower figure than if I raise the revs slowly through the critical point of silencer rattle. I have pulled the tube on a number of occasions and squeezed the end to tighten it over the spigot, but I risk making an already difficult re-assembly impossible if I over do the squeezing. My Pinto regularly returns a 98dB(A) figure or thereabouts. I’ve had a problem with my repackable exhaust; the inner perforated tube rattling against the matting tube in the end cap - usually within 500 miles of a refit. I tried exhaust paste, stainless clips, aluminium tape etc with no improvement, my latest ‘solution’ is high temp RTV and with well over 500 miles covered since the last repack - no rattle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man On The Clapham Omnibus Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 2 hours ago, jonjh1964 said: I’ve had a problem with my repackable exhaust; the inner perforated tube rattling against the matting tube in the end cap - usually within 500 miles of a refit. I tried exhaust paste, stainless clips, aluminium tape etc with no improvement, my latest ‘solution’ is high temp RTV and with well over 500 miles covered since the last repack - no rattle. Well jonjh, that's interesting, thanks for the info, because the Wunoff chap suggested that when I first had the problem but I didn't believe that a silicone, despite its well known heat resistance, would survive. May I ask which end of yours has the removable cap? Mine is at the 'cool' tailpipe end with the perforated inner tube attached which means that the rattling end is at the 'hot' end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonjh1964 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Man On The Clapham Omnibus said: Well jonjh, that's interesting, thanks for the info, because the Wunoff chap suggested that when I first had the problem but I didn't believe that a silicone, despite its well known heat resistance, would survive. May I ask which end of yours has the removable cap? Mine is at the 'cool' tailpipe end with the perforated inner tube attached which means that the rattling end is at the 'hot' end. Cooler tailpipe end , the RTV was some +700 deg C that I had left over from another job although I’ve been told any silicone/RTV would be okay. i thought mine was rattling at the other end but having taken it apart the front end was welded up so couldn’t have rattled. I RTV the cool end only and the rattle has gone. Edited April 14, 2019 by jonjh1964 Added comment about welded front end cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man On The Clapham Omnibus Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Ah yours is newer than mine then - Wunoff said that they had reversed the assembly to make it easier to put back together. Mine is a pig to reassemble as it's a very dark black hole that you're trying to poke a long pipe down and over an invisible spigot. Hence my reluctance to take it apart! You can see the screws on mine in the picture. The front end is rivetted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonjh1964 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Mine has screws at both ends which makes refilling with acoustafil relatively straight forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Tearney Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 Thanks for all the information, guess the only way to know for sure is to test it. Having bought the car not built it i have little idea what parts have been fitted..ie exhaust type/make so hard to gauge based on comparisons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oily Steve Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 On 13/04/2019 at 10:34, Archibald Meatpants said: Apps aren’t very accurate. The measuring technique differs from track to track, you’re much better off to go to Bedford (other tracks are available) and ask them to test it, that’s what I did. Or come to the Cadwell day where the noise limit is very high and get it tested then. FWIW IMO a “standard” zetec, with a decent sized and packed can shouldn’t be a problem. Russ, was your car tested for drive by at Bedford and did it pass? I think my Westfield is a similar spec to yours so I wondered if mine is likely to be ok at Bedford. It’s a track I would like to do some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAFKARM Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 They tested it static and let me know if have no problems. I’ve been back at Bedford in it multiple tones and never even had the noise warning board they give when you are getting close on the drive by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Done Bedford a few times..warned that was near limit on the pick up on outside of track due to exhaust on right side..short shift and problem solved.. had passed their static test no issues.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oily Steve Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Good info, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith B Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Hello all... I have just purchased a Westfield Megabird and will need it noise tested before its maiden track day at Oulton park on August 17th...Im wondering if this exhaust is looking a little too short although it does not seem overly loud.... a I have just purchased a Westfield Megabird and will need it noise tested before its maiden track day at Oulton park on August 17th... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy (Sycho) Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, Keith B said: Hello all... I have just purchased a Westfield Megabird and will need it noise tested before its maiden track day at Oulton park on August 17th...Im wondering if this exhaust is looking a little too short although it does not seem overly loud.... a I have just purchased a Westfield Megabird and will need it noise tested before its maiden track day at Oulton park on August 17th... Best way is to take it down to your local track (which I guess is Oulton) & get it tested, or you can get an app on your phone. no sure how accurate these are though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenh Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 For what it's worth, 102 dBs is loud, it is highly tuned engines which are borderline, so if you have a car engine with a reasonably mild state of tune, and a reasonably made exhaust system, you really shouldn't have a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Algar - Competition Secretary Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 10 hours ago, Keith B said: Hello all... I have just purchased a Westfield Megabird and will need it noise tested before its maiden track day at Oulton park on August 17th...Im wondering if this exhaust is looking a little too short although it does not seem overly loud.... a I have just purchased a Westfield Megabird and will need it noise tested before its maiden track day at Oulton park on August 17th... Bike engined cars can have a problem on track days, it really is worth getting it checked before the day. Your silencer doesn't look that big and it might be a bit borderline. Hopefully not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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