alexander72 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 i do it now with my navarra :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham0127 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Really surprised you have to load your Navara.Or are you kidding?Heard they`re good in the rough stuff but a bit Iffy in the cylinder head dept. Look forward to your educated,entertaining,unloggologist and honest reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooch Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 There was an old tale about the Tornado fighters being designed with a certain radar type that ultimately didn't work, so was replaced with a different radar unit in the nose cone that was considerably lighter, which made it nose light and threw the aircraft out of trim from a balance standpoint. The quick and dirty remedy was supposedly to put a bag of concrete in the nose cone to compensate, hence the nickname "Blue Circle Airlines". Apparently, it confused the hell out of the Iraqis in the first Gulf War when one was shot down and there was a bag of the stuff in the wreckage. My, that myth grew! The Tornado ADV (later designated F2/F3) was meant to have an all singing/all dancing radar called Blue Fox. The radar was late being delivered (quelle suprise, MOD) so couldn't be fitted when the first aircraft arrived. Fast jet aircraft are designed to have everything they are meant to have fitted so that they have the correct weight and balance in flight, so suitable ballast was fitted to approximate the weight of the missing radar. The rumour was that a bag of cement was used (but wasn't) hence the nickname 'Blue Circle Radar'. Blue Fox did eventually come on line and would have been fitted and working as advertised by the time of the 1st Gulf War. While, we lost several GR variant Tornados (including one piloted by a very nice chap who flew me on a jolly in a Hawk one time, Sqn Ldr Gary Lennox who, sadly, was killed in action over Bagdhad) We did not lose any Tornado F3s. FFIW I was lucky enough to get a trip in the back of a Tornado GR4 out of RAF Lossiemouth back in '96. Even got to loop-the-loop with me at the controls! Tough job, but someone had to do it...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Pretender Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Reducing the tyre pressures should increase contact with the road. It's a trick they use off roading in soft sand etc when stuck.. guess it could apply to icey road conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz Billsberry Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 It's tosh on those figures! 120 kg circa 260lbs and 2.4 bar! F **k me that's nearly 37psi you'd need a huge fat Gordie slag in the boot to stop you heading for the ditch with those kinda pressures it would become a Torvill & Dean machine! And don't for get Z4 drivers down grade from Caterhams cos they're Sh*te drivers! Not like us extremely talented WSCC drivers Buzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander72 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Graham, hi there. We run a D22 Navarra and in 4wd it is very good off-road, on road and towing. It is in full MT tyres so has a very open tread pattern. The issue i have is when it is unladen, on a wet roundabout, being driven some of our lads who are under 25... it is very tail happy in 2wd. When it has a cubic metre of wet ringsin the back (600kg) the rear end is "planted". As a work truck i cant fault it's value for money, comfort, running costs and performance as a load lugger as we go out with 10 saws, 50l of fuel, 3 climbing kits, blowers, clean up kit, 500m of rope and a 3.5tonne chipper on a trailer behind and it's great. It even took us to Hungary!!! TTFN James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweet orange Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I currently have 7 bags of building sand trapped in between the rear axle and tailgate in the back of my Toyota Hiace. Its the only way to get around at the moment. Its a bit of a hand full if it looses traction on a bend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander72 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 good work orange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanG1 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Always makes me laugh when people go on about rear wheel drive being crap in low grip conditions. Didn't stop Roger Clark, Ari Vattinen etc from storming around the snow laden forests on the RAC Rally in RWD Escorts back in the day before the Audi Quattro moved the goalposts LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffC Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 we went to watch the rallying at Croft at the weekend and conditions were horendous packed snow and ice , one of the fastest cars there was a Mk1 Escort, it hammered all the subarus evo 4wd cars, his driving style was something else! he would get my vote for driver of theday and I dont think he added weight in the boot to give traction video here if you can view it ? watch the evo poodling along behind ! http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151355002784645 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander72 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 nice one Jeff!!! I agree IanG the problem i have with the navarra is when the young lads get out of a front drive 1.0 corsa into my shiny truck and stick in into a ditch or my own barn ( i type from experience) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Algar - Competition Secretary Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 So we're all agreed the problem is young lads who can't drive !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz Billsberry Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Ditto that Nick! Great vid Jeff Buzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Verona Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Young lads, their fathers, grandfathers, young girls, their mothers and grand mothers, in fact everyone but those folk who drive sports cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dombanks Posted January 23, 2013 Author Share Posted January 23, 2013 It's tosh on those figures! 120 kg circa 260lbs and 2.4 bar! F **k me that's nearly 37psi you'd need a huge fat Gordie slag in the boot to stop you heading for the ditch with those kinda pressures it would become a Torvill & Dean machine! And don't for get Z4 drivers down grade from Caterhams cos they're Sh*te drivers! Not like us extremely talented WSCC drivers Buzz subbtle...or they live in apartment with no garage so cant have one?... i like my z4. i thought that pressure was a bit high when i got it 2.2 at the front and 2.4 rear so i phone BMW and they confirmed it. tbh ive had little problems on the snow but you do have to be really careful and there were no real hills to navigate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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