cast iron Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 The letter mans nothing. let's put it this way. If the Police tell you you don't need to inform you're insurers of 3 points and you don't but keep the letter when the insurer rejects a claim they are not going to change their mind because a third party told you you didn't have to tell them. Tell them, it's their decision if it's a material fact. I only need to tell my insurance of any prosecution, points etc, of which I have none Quote
Richard Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 Interesting article I read today.. Didn't realise civilian police workers were responsible for carrying out speed checks.. Just goes to show you.. non of us are safe any more!! iction/Article/201006315650091?lpos=UK_News_First_UK_News_Article_Teaser_Region_3&lid=ARTICLE_15650091_Golfer_Colin_Montgomerie_Wins_Back_His_Driving_Licence_After_Judge_Overtu rns_Speeding_Conviction_" target="_blank">http://news.sky.com/skynews....iction_ Quote
Norman Verona Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 1) the camera vans are managed by the local authorities and manned by Police staff for legal reasons. 2) I think you'll find that your insurers ask to be informed of any "material facts" Quote
petro Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 This may not still hold water, but I was told of a way to pay the fine but avoid the points. I have not put this to the test but this is how it goes. Pay a cheque for £61-00. The system should then refund you a cheque for £1-00, but until that cheque is cleared the system cannot issue you with points. So keep the cheque and frame it if you like and things are just held in the system. As I say I have not tried it and it could be complete balderdash. Quote
nikpro Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 This may not still hold water, but I was told of a way to pay the fine but avoid the points. I have not put this to the test but this is how it goes. Pay a cheque for £61-00. The system should then refund you a cheque for £1-00, but until that cheque is cleared the system cannot issue you with points. So keep the cheque and frame it if you like and things are just held in the system. As I say I have not tried it and it could be complete balderdash. Old wives tale I'm affraid and you'll get hammered by court for doing this. Quote
Man On The Clapham Omnibus Posted June 17, 2010 Posted June 17, 2010 Hammered for paying too much? "Just contributing to the deficit, m'lud" Quote
jerryhzx12 Posted June 24, 2010 Author Posted June 24, 2010 End of the line .....I've recieved the latest from the "safety" camera folks - they have provided me with a calibration certificate (which expires only a few days after the incident), but apparently can't or are unwilling to send any other info, I'll have to go to court to get the rest. Much as I am inclined to do so, to stand up for my rights as a tax paying, law abiding citizen etc, to do so I will have to lose at least a day's (self employed) wages, and will probably end up with at least the fine and points as offered, as the court will no doubt be in collusion with the filth. I also have to bring into consideration other stuff going on in my life (like helping my wife through chemo and radiotherapy), so it's roll over and take it up the A*** time. I don't think the safety camera wombles have in any way made the roads a safer place by their actions, but they have now turend me into someone who will not trust or support the legal system designed to punish the innocent. Next time I hear of a member of the local constabulary having a misfortune, I'm off out to buy a choccy bar to celebrate. Hopefully a load of the b*****ds will get the chop in the budget cutbacks. Quote
pistonbroke Posted June 24, 2010 Posted June 24, 2010 Sounds about right British justice as applied for motoring criminals Thank you m'lairds , bend over ? certainly thanks Quote
Nick Algar - Competition Secretary Posted June 24, 2010 Posted June 24, 2010 Next time I hear of a member of the local constabulary having a misfortune, I'm off out to buy a choccy bar to celebrate. Hopefully a load of the b*****ds will get the chop in the budget cutbacks. That's the most worrying thing about this. Gone are the good old days when most people supported the Police. Now they are viewed differently, very sad loss to all of us. Mainly because almost all of us are now "criminals" Quote
steve_m Posted June 25, 2010 Posted June 25, 2010 Next time I hear of a member of the local constabulary having a misfortune, I'm off out to buy a choccy bar to celebrate. Hopefully a load of the b*****ds will get the chop in the budget cutbacks. That's the most worrying thing about this. Gone are the good old days when most people supported the Police. Now they are viewed differently, very sad loss to all of us. Mainly because almost all of us are now "criminals" I had a NIP a couple of months ago for Driving Without Due Care . . . turns out I'd overtaken a plod on his way to work . . . . . on a straight piece of road . . . . first I overtook the car behind him . . . . on a straight piece of road . . . . then him . . . . no other cars were coming, nobody was caused to deviate or take avoiding action, no other vehicles on the road at all. He was just in a bad mood or maybe his wife gave him some jip that morning. His statement, once you strip away anything which is conjecture, what-if's etc . . . leaving just the bare facts is that I over took two cars, one at a time, on straight pieces of road with no other traffic around. They used to police by consent but I doubt they consider that important these days, bulls*it and bluster seems to be the order of the day. Quote
dombanks Posted June 25, 2010 Posted June 25, 2010 Next time I hear of a member of the local constabulary having a misfortune, I'm off out to buy a choccy bar to celebrate. Hopefully a load of the b*****ds will get the chop in the budget cutbacks. That's the most worrying thing about this. Gone are the good old days when most people supported the Police. Now they are viewed differently, very sad loss to all of us. Mainly because almost all of us are now "criminals" <!--emo& I had a NIP a couple of months ago for Driving Without Due Care . . . turns out I'd overtaken a plod on his way to work . . . . . on a straight piece of road . . . . first I overtook the car behind him . . . . on a straight piece of road . . . . then him . . . . no other cars were coming, nobody was caused to deviate or take avoiding action, no other vehicles on the road at all. He was just in a bad mood or maybe his wife gave him some jip that morning. His statement, once you strip away anything which is conjecture, what-if's etc . . . leaving just the bare facts is that I over took two cars, one at a time, on straight pieces of road with no other traffic around. They used to police by consent but I doubt they consider that important these days, bulls*it and bluster seems to be the order of the day. what was the outcome? its a sad state of affairs if you cant overtake for fear of retrospectivley getting done by a bloke who's not on duty??? Quote
lippydave Posted June 25, 2010 Posted June 25, 2010 Next time I hear of a member of the local constabulary having a misfortune, I'm off out to buy a choccy bar to celebrate. Hopefully a load of the b*****ds will get the chop in the budget cutbacks. That's the most worrying thing about this. Gone are the good old days when most people supported the Police. Now they are viewed differently, very sad loss to all of us. Mainly because almost all of us are now "criminals" Far be it from me to defend the old bill....but..... The problem is that we allow the actions of a couple of misguided dickheads to tarnish our impressions of the whole of the police force....... Unfortunately a number of 'em lack the actual intelligence to dsitinguish twixt applying "policy" and applying commonsense...... Think it's more representative of the general decline in education, and that the necessary requirements/criteria to be a police officer can now be fullfilled by people who aren't fit to be rozzers in the first place.... A couple of friends of mine are career coppers, (I'm ashamed to say.... ), and they bemoan the fact that standards within the force and recruitment policy are appalling in comparison with 20 odd years ago.... Heck, sometimes they're even like real people...Good and bad amongst all professions... Quote
steve_m Posted June 25, 2010 Posted June 25, 2010 what was the outcome? its a sad state of affairs if you cant overtake for fear of retrospectivley getting done by a bloke who's not on duty??? I shall report back next month ! I'm not employng a Solicitor . . . if there is any justice I should be able to represent myself, I'm reasonably intelligent and look quite normal when I have a shave and pull a suit on Quote
jerryhzx12 Posted June 25, 2010 Author Posted June 25, 2010 There's the shame of it - wander in to court looking moronic with a shell suit and a burberry cap on sideways, and speaking incoherent street slang, you'll probably get sent on a rally driving course. look like you can afford to pay up and they'll no doubt fleece you... Quote
RedditchJay Posted June 25, 2010 Posted June 25, 2010 Just to add what was raised earlier. I was nabbed a fews years back.....man on the roadside, camera on a tripod.... when I was flashed I slowed down, got pulled over, 38mph in a 30 zone.... he knicked me at 932 meters away..... yep... I was a dot in the distance and the unit he had also recored it so he showed me.... 932 meters is a b****y long way away Quote
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