The Westie Election

[KerryS]

I rarely comment on political matters as I do not understand them but...#

It turns out our local LibDem candidate is an engineer so she'll get my vote, well she would if we were at home but we're not.

I cannot bring myself to vote Tory after what Thatcher did to the the society of this country and set in motion the economic downfall we have recently experienced through re-introducing the old concept of greed.

[pistonbroke]

65 who "can't be bothered voting " have managed to do so in the "westy vote"  

[dhutch]

Hear hear. Spoiled papers demonstrate a protest. Not turning up demonstrates apathy, and apathy never got us anywhere...

Rightly or wrongly it's what I did on the last election about a year ago.

I wrote exactly what I thought of them in no uncertain terms. Obviously it meant diddly squat to the scum bags, but made me feel happy as I strolled out.

Well thats isnt it.

- And as said, statically, in my mind, far better than not voting.

[Blatman]

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I cannot bring myself to vote Tory after what Thatcher did to the the society of this country and set in motion the economic downfall we have recently experienced through re-introducing the old concept of greed.

You think Thatcher *introduced* greed to the current system? Or *introduced* greed to the last Tory government? As if greed wasn't around before, or now?

Sadly it's Labours greed to interfere, to be effectively a communist style government where they have a say in every part of our lives that has led to the mess we're in. Big government doesn't work in a democracy, and big government is expensive. That's why we're in a mess. Did you know that the current government are one of the biggest buyers of TV and radio advertising currently (and it's not to do with electioneering, just those annoying YouGov ads and the like)? Did you know that on average, Labour have introduced one new law a week to the statute books? Did you know Labour pretty much ratify every new EU directive into UK law without debate? No other EU country does this. I am prepeared to accept that the UK isn't really a democracy, but Labour's idea of democracy is in reality a slow walk to communism, dressed up in an Armani suit so we'll think it looks nice on the way...

That's Saturdays rant over with then

[Captain Colonial]

Come bake Maggie all is forgiven

"Bake"? What temperature should I use?  For how long? Breast up or down - she is a tough old bird, after all.  Should I baste, and with what?  How many people will it serve?

[Bananaman]

No matter who you vote for the 'Government' allways get in!

[KerryS]

I cannot bring myself to vote Tory after what Thatcher did to the the society of this country and set in motion the economic downfall we have recently experienced through re-introducing the old concept of greed.

You think Thatcher *introduced* greed to the current system? Or *introduced* greed to the last Tory government? As if greed wasn't around before, or now?

Sadly it's Labours greed to interfere, to be effectively a communist style government where they have a say in every part of our lives that has led to the mess we're in. Big government doesn't work in a democracy, and big government is expensive. That's why we're in a mess. Did you know that the current government are one of the biggest buyers of TV and radio advertising currently (and it's not to do with electioneering, just those annoying YouGov ads and the like)? Did you know that on average, Labour have introduced one new law a week to the statute books? Did you know Labour pretty much ratify every new EU directive into UK law without debate? No other EU country does this. I am prepeared to accept that the UK isn't really a democracy, but Labour's idea of democracy is in reality a slow walk to communism, dressed up in an Armani suit so we'll think it looks nice on the way...

That's Saturdays rant over with then

Which is why I do not comment on politics because I cannot be   ed with any arguement.

So maybe greed was wrong word but as far as I am concerned she introduced the me-me-me f**k everyone else approach that pervades society today.

And that's my last word on this thread......

So there....    

[samcooke]

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effectively a communist style government

Like Kerry says, it's daft to enter into a debate with no chance of an outcome, but I've got to question that one Blatters :

Name me one thing that the labour administration have doe that's 'communist style'.

[Buzz Billsberry]

Come bake Maggie all is forgiven

"Bake"? What temperature should I use?  For how long? Breast up or down - she is a tough old bird, after all.  Should I baste, and with what?  How many people will it serve?

Doh! good one captain!

Buzz

[Blatman]

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Name me one thing that the labour administration have doe that's 'communist style'.

Passing laws without debate. OK, so governments of every flavour do that, and it may be that I'm paying more attention now than I have in the past, but it's the constant drive to have a say in *everything* we do, for *everything* to be state controlled, or if not directly controlled, then scrutinised by the state to a greater or lesser degree. The right of centre parties at least allow, or seem to allow greater freedoms, whether actual or perceived, than the left of centre parties. Ok, so communism may be a slightly extreme stance to take but you have to ask, given the amount of control the current shower seem to want to have, what's the end game?

[Mike H]

- Actually, generally, much of the lib-dems policies seam on the surface to be all right, so im happy to give it a whirl for once.

For God's sake don't please.  Their policies are always just anything that the other two haven't said - just to make them sound different.  It would be awful if they ever got any power.  They would run out of ideas by the second week and revert to type - weirdo namby pambies.

As for Vince Cable - he scares me stiff,  the guy is a loon.

Mike  

[lippydave]

- Actually, generally, much of the lib-dems policies seam on the surface to be all right, so im happy to give it a whirl for once.

For God's sake don't please.  Their policies are always just anything that the other two haven't said - just to make them sound different.  It would be awful if they ever got any power.  They would run out of ideas by the second week and revert to type - weirdo namby pambies.

As for Vince Cable - he scares me stiff,  the guy is a loon.

Mike  

I know yer right, but as a past conservative voter I really, really, don't want that shiny-faced old  Etonian w****r "Blair-wannabe" Cameron anywhere where he can have any influence in my life....  

Brings to mind an old Alexei Sayle rant on public schoolboys in politics.....

"f**king old Etonian bum boys slamming each others danglers in the desks...."    

[Norman Verona]

Far from being communist, I see New Labour as old Conservative. They certainly haven't redistributed the wealth.

And I see Vince Cable as the only creditable finacial man in all the parties. (I think he was BPs cheif economist before retiring into politics)

For many reasons the Lib Dems appear to me to be the only credible party out there.

If the tories don't get a landslide after the past 5 years of mismanagement then it should tell us that the public trust them less that New Labour.

[Norman Verona]

Mike, not sure what part of Derbyshire you're in but when I was running projects in NE Derbyshire the money came from Europe. Didn't stop the MPs claiming the credit though.

I think we all need to understand one thing. we have a huge dept to repay. Whoever wins will have to increase tax and cut spending. The only difference is will be in who can run the goverment efficiently and maximise the income and tax to repay the debt.

Ed to ad that I think I'm going mad. I read a post by Mike H about Derbyshire but I must have imagined it. I'm working too hard (digging out the barn floor with a huge concrete breaker - photo's on the web site in "Life at La Foie)

[Man On The Clapham Omnibus]

Name me one thing that the labour administration have doe that's 'communist style'.

Totalitarian might be a better term. Try the forcible removal/arrest of an elderly protestor from your own party at a conference for voicing his disagreement for a start, then arresting another for reading out a list of names in a public street. There will be loudspeakers on lamposts spouting the wisdom of chairman Gordon and massive portraits of him on billboards of they get back in. It's the overwhelming feeling that HMG wants to know everything about everybody typical of repressive regimes that I find a worry. In case I seem like a little Tory, I tried the political profiler Political Compass the other day, endeavoured to be honest, and came out just below the liberal line and slightly to the left of centre.