OOOT - VOIP and Netgear WNR2000 Router

[Blatman]

** alot of cisco personel apeared to be "out" at that time and its been a long time since i had to worry about such things ...... nice to finally have a router that has sat stable and solid for over a year now

I could be really geeky now and ask you to past a copy of a Show Version command so that we can have a look at the router up-time. Always good for a grin Here's mine from todays "troubleshooting"...

Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software

IOS ™ C2600 Software (C2600-BIN-M), Version 12.3(18), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc3)

Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport

Copyright © 1986-2006 by cisco Systems, Inc.

Compiled Wed 15-Mar-06 14:16 by dchih

Image text-base: 0x80008098, data-base: 0x80DCFF10

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)

ROM: C2600 Software (C2600-BIN-M), Version 12.3(18), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc3)

TOP uptime is 1 minute

System returned to ROM by power-on

System image file is "flash:c2600-bin-mz.123-18.bin"

cisco 2610 (MPC860) processor (revision 0x202) with 28672K/4096K bytes of memory.

Processor board ID JAB0313067N (4286363333)

M860 processor: part number 0, mask 49

Bridging software.

X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.

1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)

4 Low-speed serial(sync/async) network interface(s)

32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.

8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)

Configuration register is 0x2102

Yup, it's been working for a whole minute. Must be lunch time...

[Blatman]

Ok - understand - thanks.

Harv, you're right I'm not an expert in this by any means - just trying to figure it out. I know more than I did before, but quite likely not enough! ISP is Virgin Media so a cable connection.

If I have to get something new, I'd take my normal approach of "buy one and get it right" even if it costs a bit more and might (right now) be more than I need.

That said, I'd much rather spend the cash on the Westy! A new router won't make the car any faster!

Did you say that the phone worked OK when it was plugged directly in to the cable modem?

[peterg]

did you think about doing a search of the original post    

QUOTE

If I plug the phone directly into the Virgin modem it registers itself and works fine

   

[Guest]

Cisco IOS Software, C850 Software (C850-ADVSECURITYK9-M), Version 12.4(6)T9, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2)

Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport

Copyright © 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc.

Compiled Tue 09-Oct-07 18:51 by khuie

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 12.3(8r)YI4, RELEASE SOFTWARE

harvCisco uptime is 5 weeks, 3 days, 18 hours, 1 minute

System returned to ROM by power-on

System image file is "flash:c850-advsecurityk9-mz.124-6.T9.bin"

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Cisco 857W (MPC8272) processor (revision 0x300) with 59392K/6144K bytes of memory.

Processor board ID FCZ114690KJ

MPC8272 CPU Rev: Part Number 0xC, Mask Number 0x10

4 FastEthernet interfaces

1 ATM interface

1 802.11 Radio

128K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.

20480K bytes of processor board System flash (Intel Strataflash)

Configuration register is 0x2102

mine was unplugged while i upgraded my phone socket im the wall (sssssssssssh don't tell BT) and connected my redundant second line upstairs into an extention in the back of the master socket

i have to admit it took me a few mins to find how to do that as i did it via SDM rather than command line

[Blatman]

did you think about doing a search of the original post  

I'm at lunch...

So it's obviously the router, although it was always a strong suspect.

It *might* be worth asking Virgin if they have any suggestions... maybe...

[RichP]

Thats my plan for tonight, although to be honest I think we've reached a point beyond what they're likely to help with. I'll be happy if they'll just take it back and refund me and I'll go my own way.

[Blatman]

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mine was unplugged while i upgraded my phone socket im the wall (sssssssssssh don't tell BT) and connected my redundant second line upstairs into an extention in the back of the master socket

i have to admit it took me a few mins to find how to do that as i did it via SDM rather than command line

I did this at my place, but just joined the two "phone" cables and ignored the bell wire. It means that I need a DSL filter on both phone outlets otherwise using the home phone crashes the DSL connection when the call is ended. I really should fix it, but I can't find my punchdown tool

[Blatman]

Thats my plan for tonight, although to be honest I think we've reached a point beyond what they're likely to help with. I'll be happy if they'll just take it back and refund me and I'll go my own way.

Yeah, they'll probably just go through their on screen menu (I hate that) and unless they have an entry for your phone I suspect they'll be lost. Dead spots notwithstanding, I still think rule number one applies, along with my re-orientation of the router suggestion, to see if that helps with signal propogation

[RichP]

I absolutely agree with rule #1 apart from the snag of changing from phone-line based broadband to cable. The old router (actually a modem router) as far as I understand is now my new doorstop as it won't work with cable broadband. No WAN socket on the back for a start.

Anyway, on the upside once again WSCC have proved to be a font of knowledge and have shown me that it's not me being a muppet that stops it all working, but (what seems to be) a reasonably advanced firmware incompatibility - not easy to find. Where tech support have failed, WSCC pulls through!

[Guest]

mine was unplugged while i upgraded my phone socket im the wall (sssssssssssh don't tell BT) and connected my redundant second line upstairs into an extention in the back of the master socket

i have to admit it took me a few mins to find how to do that as i did it via SDM rather than command line

I did this at my place, but just joined the two "phone" cables and ignored the bell wire. It means that I need a DSL filter on both phone outlets otherwise using the home phone crashes the DSL connection when the call is ended. I really should fix it, but I can't find my punchdown tool

can't you just use a credit card as a punchdown tool

or maybe a plastic card of blockbuster origin is a better idea.

[ACW]

A Cisco 800 will deff work as will an 1800. If you go for 87X over 85X you will get QoS features as well. 85X has a number of enterprise features deliberately disabled. Bad news is GUI isnt great, SDM is the work of the devil. Good news is I can do you a command line config.

However an 800 or 1800 series router wont have wireless N built in. You can have G (which is probably adequate) and you will get much better coverage on an 877 than an 857 and both will be better than comsumer brands. 877W has higher wifi power and diversity antennae over 857W.

877W is a great Home business user router. It can support mutiple WVLANs so you have have mutiple wireless networks off the unit,as well as physical VLANs as well. We use 877W when deploying homeworker sites for business - usuallly with a Cisco Callmanager phones as well runing SIP or SCCP.

you should be able to get a unit of Ebay for a few quid. Now your setup you have ethernet rather than ADSL, but that doesnt matter as you can still use one of the ethernet ports and define it as outside (on 877W) and this is more flexible than buying an 871 (ehternet/ethernet router).

yep.... 877W on ebay - loads of em.

Linksys stuff is ok, but it isnt Cisco in the true sense of the word, and Cisco seem to have been strugling to know how to make best use of this aquisition.

If anyone needs Cisco advise at work / home feel free to contact me on email / PM. My Company is a Cisco Partner with specialisation is Routing, Switching, VPN Securty, Advanced Unified Comms (Voice) and Advanced Wireless. of plug>

[RichP]

Excellent - top advice thank you very much

[Guest]

looks to upgrade 857 to 877 .... why are the 77's cheaper on ebay .... because there are more around?

had mine a few years now , and have to say was fine to setup on zen as standard adsl , more of a challenge on BE

[Guest]

Excellent - top advice thank you very much

there are 2 on their for 95 quid ....

if you fancy one then i'll go halves on that deal and then its cheaper than your  home jobbie , as long as someone can work out a config for your needs

I'll chuck the other one in place of my 57 , and ebay it

[Blatman]

If anyone needs Cisco advise at work / home feel free to contact me on email / PM. My Company is a Cisco Partner with specialisation is Routing, Switching, VPN Securty, Advanced Unified Comms (Voice) and Advanced Wireless.

And if you need a "southern" representative/callout engineer, you know where I am

as long as someone can work out a config for your needs

I *might*, but the Webmaster would no doubt write much better code, and much quicker...