VERY O.T.Neighbours from hell

[Blatman]

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The law says anyone can have music on at whatever level as long as no neighbour can hear it

Can you point me to that law on the relevant Government web site?

[John Loudon - Sponsorship Liaison]

Catch the dog and take it to a dogs home miles away and say that you found it on a roaming (after removing its collar if it has one). The dog will get rehomed miles away and no longer be a problem.

John

[cidersurfer]

Tell the Police that if they don't come pretty quickly you feel like going around to them and turning the music off yourself.  If you are forceful enough with the Police they will attend fairly quickly and make sure the neighbour knows the rules.

I don't know if this is absolutely correct but a friend of mine who was in the police force told me that if when you call them and request attendance you use the following or similar words they are duty bound to attend.

"...... please can you sort it or there will be a breach of the peace..." I think it's something to do with their statutes etc...

[blankczechbook]

..not a bad idea, but wont stop the parties and the late night shouting and music...

Justin, life's too short to have to put up with s**t neighbours like that.

but please don't move further away - every time you moved so far it has been further for us to come to visit - or is it i smell THAT bad?  

[Vinny's Westie]

Can you point me to that law on the relevant Government web site?

I would suggest you carry out a search.

Information can be found here for those who are unable to find the necessary information themselves.

It has reference to 'the permitted level' which I have clarified with the local Police and some friends who are employees of the Police service who say they take this to be exactly as I said.

I hope it is helpful to sort out the noise problem being encountered by the message starter.

[Mrs Westy]

It has reference to 'the permitted level' which I have clarified with the local Police and some friends who are employees of the Police service who say they take this to be exactly as I said.

But the guidance in that link also says that the Local Authority are the enforcement body - so asking the police their opinion on interpretation means nothing.  The noise act also provides powers rather than duties, so there is no obligation on the authority to do anything under that Act, some don't have out of hours services.  Police can deal with breach of the peace though so as previously suggested, use that wording when you call them and that should give more action on their part.  

It's more usual for the Noise Act to be used for one-off very loud parties etc, ongoing noise is more likely to be dealt with as a statutory nuisance  - nuisance usually being defined as a substantial interference with your comfort or quality of life NOT whether you can hear something or not.  That's why you get asked to fill in log sheets, so that the frequency and scale of the problem are logged.  It is important to note the impact that the noise has on you (e.g. couldn't sleep, couldn't hear TV etc) as this demonstrates an interference with your quality of life.

[Boomy]

Regarding the dog barking, a friend of mine was having the same problem a while back.So he went onto his local council web page, copied the headed part at the top, drafted a letter suggesting they had received complaints and further action would be taken unless it stopped, photoshopped the heading onto the letter and posted it through his neighbours door.

He hardly ever hears the dog now.

He had nothing to lose and it worked a treat.

I understand what you are going through too.The only reason we purchased a detached house in the end was to rule out ever having to hear doors bang, music play and drunken rows from neighbours.

That's not to say that can't still happen of course to some degree, but i no longer ever have to feel vibrations through the walls as out of control kids run up and down stairs etc etc etc.

There were also a few houses in what was once a pretty respectable place to live being rented out before we moved.

All sorts of people were moving in and i have to admit their were some confrontations that led to suggestions of illegal acts of revenge.

The problem with such things is it can all escalate out of control unless you know exactly who you are dealing with.

Scratched cars, broken windows, fights in dark alleys and petrol poured through the letter box with a spent match dropped in as a warning can all lead to years of warfare unless you know your enemy.

My advice would be to use the proper channels until you really have no other choice, hopefuly it should never get to that stage though.

It's also worth pointing out that sometimes things may not be as bad as they seem.

I know there are tales of neighbour disputes that would be far worse and some much better than what you have posted, but it is very easy when you are angry and fed up to treat every single thing those neighbours do as a problem.

Hearing them clink a milk bottle as they put it on the step may be enough to start your heart pumping and leave your head ready to explode when in these situations for example.It is just another reminder that these people exist.

Yet normaly you would never give it a thought.

Convinving myself that not every single thing my neighbours did was a personal attack on me or that things i heard where nothing more than everyday noises was the only thing that kept me sane sometimes i'm sure.

My situation wasn't as bad as some, far from it in fact, but the feelings generated were much the same as anyone feels in these situations no matter what they are suffering.

We had decided to move anyway long before it got to the stage we were at.In fact the people living next door moved anyway in the end and rented the house out to an older couple who you simply never heard a peep from.

The experience left me with a proper understanding though of how a happy home can be turned almost overnight into a living nightmare.

I was always a considerate neighbour anyway, despite having a nice hi fi setup etc for films and such i never had it on loud and would always use headphones later at night.

Sadly not everyone has the same level of respect.

[Muttleys V8]

Have you thought of the  old school method of giving them a damm good kicking

Me and Barry know some people  

[Thrustyjust]

Have you thought of the  old school method of giving them a damm good kicking

Me and Barry know some people  

Nice Steve,you can sleep with my wife.I won't question it

[kylemrushall]

Hi

I have an aquaintance who for a small fee will sort the problem for you forever, i promise you will never have a problem again!!!!

He sorted a non paying tenant for me and the tenant appeared at my door very white, shaking with the money he owed me in cash!!! The tenant apologized and said " it wont happen again" it didnt.........

Im sorry its all some people understand.

[Boomy]

Hi

I have an aquaintance who for a small fee will sort the problem for you forever, i promise you will never have a problem again!!!!

He sorted a non paying tenant for me and the tenant appeared at my door very white, shaking with the money he owed me in cash!!! The tenant apologized and said " it wont happen again" it didnt.........

Im sorry its all some people understand.

That sort of approach is all well and good but is based on the assumption that the person you are approaching actually cares.

Some won't give a toss who you send round.

They may also know people just as bad as the guy you sent round, many people always know "someone".

I, like most others know people like the one you suggest, i have even had cause in the past to take matters in my own hands, but it's not always as cut and dry as what you see in the movies.

Seeing a work mate covered in petrol, uncontrollably shaking due to a two hour ordeal in the back of a transit van simply because he decided to use an offered "service" such as the one you suggest would be just one example.

If your friend called at the doors of a few people i know for example, they would tell him to go f@#k himself.Simple as that.

Then what happens?.

Would he go back and attempt to kill them for suggesting that?.

If he does, he has to be aware that other people will hunt him down and do the same no matter who he is, who he knows or what sort of reputation he has.

They thrive on it.

So i'm not saying approaches such as this won't or haven't worked because they have, but it can all so easily go wrong and get rather complicated for the poor person who had the problem in the first place.

Like i say, know what you are getting into if you have truly been left with no other option.

Also bare in mind that these suggestions have been posted on an internet web page that anyone can view.

Probably not the best way to go about such things.

[nikpro]

Tell the Police that if they don't come pretty quickly you feel like going around to them and turning the music off yourself.  If you are forceful enough with the Police they will attend fairly quickly and make sure the neighbour knows the rules.

I don't know if this is absolutely correct but a friend of mine who was in the police force told me that if when you call them and request attendance you use the following or similar words they are duty bound to attend.

"...... please can you sort it or there will be a breach of the peace..." I think it's something to do with their statutes etc...

This really does depend where you live but in Cheshire the Police will not attend loud music - it isn't a Police issue and they will give you a number for the enviromental health as it is this department that deal with noise complaints.

If you told the call handler that you were going to go round and turn down their music etc they would advise you that if you commited an offence you would be arrested.

It is much better to go through the proper channels but will take some time; from what you describe their behaviour isn't suitable for an ASBO.