Richgm Posted June 11, 2006 Posted June 11, 2006 I actually know someone who left their phone turned on during a fight and someone rang them. To say they got a rollicking is an understatement.:0 Quote
Richard M Green Posted June 11, 2006 Posted June 11, 2006 A colleague of mine (no names, no pack drill) has used a mobile 'phone in the back seat of a Tornado F3 whilst airborne and had no problems either with the 'phone or with the aircraft. Whilst I wouldn't recommend using a mobile 'phone in an airliner (especially an FBW airliner), I'd be fascinated to hear the reasons why a handheld GPS Receiver shouldn't be used during the take-off and landing phases of flight in an airliner..... Sits back and waits to be flamed...... Quote
Westfieldman Posted June 11, 2006 Posted June 11, 2006 I will return tomorrow with the answer as I work with an RAF flight instructor and has on occasion lost the landing beacon due to students having electronic items in their bag in the aircraft Quote
Richard M Green Posted June 11, 2006 Posted June 11, 2006 While you're asking him, you might enquire as to what freq the beacon was transmitting on, and whether he knows on what freq GPS birds transmit.... Quote
ACW Posted June 11, 2006 Posted June 11, 2006 If the device has a TFT screen or similar I suspect it would be the RFI emitted from that. I dont know how much of an issue this *really* still is now they have removed most of the software bugs in FBW aircraft like airbus etc. Quote
Blatman Posted June 11, 2006 Posted June 11, 2006 I will return tomorrow with the answer as I work with an RAF flight instructor and has on occasion lost the landing beacon due to students having electronic items in their bag in the aircraft You are doomed to fail on this one Paul. I *know* what Magnum does for a living. I'll take his word on aircraft safety over that of a welder any time... Quote
Peter M Posted June 11, 2006 Posted June 11, 2006 Take a read. Hand held GPS in passenger aircraft Quote
karlgurney Posted June 11, 2006 Posted June 11, 2006 Most modern aircraft use arinc systems and databuses to transmit the data between instruments, flying controls and flight computers. These databuses transmit the information in coded words (binary) and at the end of each word they use a parity bit and this is used for error checking, if it comes through as a error that word is rejected by the system and it will use the next one and so on this is to make sure that the information is does receive is correct. Quote
Barry Ashcroft Posted June 11, 2006 Posted June 11, 2006 I received this info this week in one of my trade magazines you all might find this interesting Air France to fly world’s first line fit aircraft with inflight mobile phone system Hamburg/Geneva - April 4, 2006 Air France will take delivery in early 2007 of the first Airbus aircraft line fitted with the OnAir GSM equipment enabling the use of mobile phones on board, it was announced today at the Aircraft Interiors Expo in Hamburg. Air France will receive the first aircraft, a single-aisle Airbus A318 that will have the OnAir system pre-installed, and will conduct a six month commercial trial using the new service. The passenger trials will take place on short-haul flights within Europe and to and from North African destinations, and will help Air France to consider every impact this new service may have on the cabin environment and the travel experience. George Cooper, OnAir CEO, said: “Delivery of the first aircraft to be fitted with our system is a landmark development in this industry. It prepares the ground for many types of aircraft to be similarly equipped. “OnAir is pleased that an Air France A318 aircraft will be the first off the Airbus assembly line with this equipment installed and that the airline has committed to a six months trial of our system. This is a further endorsement of our service. This aircraft will be flying as part of one of the world’s largest airlines and this therefore represents a very significant step forward for OnAir.” Rüdiger Fuchs, Airbus SVP Cabin & Cargo Customisation and member of the OnAir Board points out: "By introducing onboard mobile communication services Airbus underlines its leadership in cabin innovations. As a very important Airbus customer, we are particularly delighted to deliver the first aircraft to Air France; for the airline industry in general, we expect this to be the first of many line- and retrofit aircraft, enabling airlines to respond to growing passenger demand to communicate onboard." The OnAir service will allow Air France travellers to use their own GSM mobile phones and GPRS-enabled devices such as the BlackBerry or Treo, to make and receive voice calls or to send and receive SMS messages or emails during the flight without harmful interference to the aircraft navigation systems. Click for the article Barry Quote
Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) Posted June 11, 2006 Posted June 11, 2006 Great, hours stuck in a tin can with someone on a mobile, and unlike the train you can't even chuck their phone out the window Progress? Quote
Barry Ashcroft Posted June 11, 2006 Posted June 11, 2006 So what about me pacemaker I think basically your b*******ed Quote
pistonbroke Posted June 12, 2006 Posted June 12, 2006 I am considering having a " pause " button fitted Quote
russbif Posted June 12, 2006 Posted June 12, 2006 I have used my PDA (mio168) with Tomtom5 loaded on several flights, if you are in a window seat it only takes a few minutes to pick up the satellites. To make life more interesting download and install GPSdash2, this gives you altitude as well as speed and compass bearing, only problem I had was as we crossed the Kent coast it kept soudning alarms for speed cameras!!! How they intend giving and an Airbus a ticket is beyond me..... Quote
Richard M Green Posted June 12, 2006 Posted June 12, 2006 I *know* what Magnum does for a living. I'm impressed: it's so secret that they won't tell me.... I'll take his word on aircraft safety...... Which is even more interesting given that I won't get near the things..... Quote
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