Smoking Ban

[pistonbroke]

I once new a bloke who smoked 60+ fags a day ,had a pipe full of condor for breakfast and another for supper , drank like a fish ,went whoring every weekend , twice on thursdays .

He still died when he 87        

[Boomy]

As for Blatmans post, alcohol is as equal a killer as tobacco is but it's a vice that we indulge into as responsible adults, and as for the secondary effects of alcohol.....i never saw any smoker go and kick the s**t out of someone outside a club at 2am nor be too messed up to drive or pawn the kids toys to go and spend a weekend smoking himself into a stupor yet it's still an acceptable pastime with enough proven dangers and illnesses.

And this was my next point...

Alcohol is a killer too, as were the non wearing of seatbelts. Speed cameras in built up areas that nobody likes... if we all abided by speed restrictions, they wouldn't be there and so it goes on.

Think about this... Stella lovers. In 10 years time when whichever government is publicy forced to act on alcohol related crime and the rising cost to policing and medical care after such events. What would we all be saying when there is a restriction on alcohol level applied to the very brands we love to consume. Unthinkable you say? Well no, whoever thought that there would be restrictions on where you can smoke 10 years ago?

So when future governments apply a restriction on alcoholic drinks containing a percentage level much lower than what you get now, say 1.5% by volume, will we all be saying what a good move this is and how resposible of the government to act in this way? Err I don't think so.

It'll never happen you might say? Lets wait and see and have a similiar vote on its merits if it does

In general though, the problems with alcohol are more to do with the type of drinker and not the drink itself.

Most people enjoy a drink, some even for medicinal reasons and if taken to excess just wake up with a hang over swearing never to do it again.They do not affect anybody at all.

Not everyone wants to have a fight etc, so maybe they need to come down hard on offenders, something they seem to be leaning towards now.

It still does not compare to filling rooms full of smoke.

Even smokers i know would admit they never smoked in front of their children, but they will in pubs/clubs etc.

Why is that?.

[felters]

Personally I'm very pleased it's banned.

A reformed cigar smoker I'm always likely to be more zealous than someone who never indulged, in my case having kids was the trigger. Now ten years on I get greatly exercised when we're sat in a restaurant and smoke drifts across from the smokers section - and there are some good local pubs that we just won't go to for similiar reasons. I fail to understand why my childrens health and freedom should be curtailed by another persons "right" to smoke.

By the way I've been going to Ireland on business for years and the ban has been widely accepted. No riots - just a night down the boozer without having to leave your clothes in the bathroom when you get back to the hotel because of the smoke.  

[V 8]

I'm 30 and I can honestly say I have never smoke a fag in my life. And I never will...

Good job too, you'de only be 4ft tall otherwise

[Paul Hurdsfield - Joint Manchester AO]

Ban the ban  

I think Suzi Quatro sang that?  

No it was Sam the Sham and the Pharohs  

[JonnyBoy]

Smokers will keep whinging about this ban in pubs until they actually experience having to go outside for a fag and enjoy meeting new people in a nice sociable manner.

That being said.. i can't help but stereotype the people that are fully against the ban as the people that go and sit in the pub staring into their own pint in a world of self pity and have no interest in meeting other people

Its worked in Ireland evidently, and worked incredibly in Canada. Bonus for canada is that you go outside for a fag, meet lots of people and end up sharing a spliff with your new mates (so they tell me anyway)

Incidently.. 'smoking a fag' in Canada means giving head to a homosexual! Which I'd probably rather do than go into a smoky pub.

[Martin Keene]

I'm 30 and I can honestly say I have never smoke a fag in my life. And I never will...

Good job too, you'de only be 4ft tall otherwise

Cheers John...

Git!

[S8ight]

That being said.. i can't help but stereotype the people that are fully against the ban as the people that go and sit in the pub staring into their own pint in a world of self pity and have no interest in meeting other people

you mean the ones who sit in weatherspoons at 9.00 in the morning ??

[adhawkins]

People seem to be missing one of the points of this legislation (as I see it). What about the people that have no choice but to be in the pub (I'm talking about the people that work there)? Should they be forced to breathe in everyone elses smoke?

Andy

[Paul Hurdsfield - Joint Manchester AO]

As I've already said I'm totally anti smoking, but how the f*ck are they gonna police it  

[Man On The Clapham Omnibus]

As I've already said I'm totally anti smoking, but how the f*ck are they gonna police it  

Just as they police mobile phone use whilst driving  

[adhawkins]

As I've already said I'm totally anti smoking, but how the f*ck are they gonna police it  

Shouldn't be too hard. All you'll need will be a couple of high profile cases about pubs losing their licenses or whatever, and they'll soon start to clamp down...

Andy

[Ian Podmore]

It's mainly the strink on my clothes that I hate, although the smoke ain't too great a thing when you've got asthma.

Why should I have to wash my clothes just because I've been out to a pub?

[Bananaman]

As a smoker I'm glad, it's gonna help me give the 'kin stinking things up..................    

Should allow me to spend an extra £1000+/year on the car..    

[MAT1800]

Smoking in restaurant/pub/ *cage* whilst people are eating annoys me the most.

Cage?

You haven't been sneaking into the zoo for your dinner again have you? Those pesky smoking monkeys, hey.