Mark Stanton Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 He swears blind, he doesn't know any of you. Who and ................ Chris .................. swap for heavy duty clutch should be fine and much more user friendly for road and manouvering around paddock and trailer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Okay guys point taken ...the clutch is put together but the engine is not yet fitted so I still have time to change. Are you suggesting the SBD HD plate or can I get the equivalent somewhere else cheaper....sorry to hijack your thread Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidersurfer Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Yukspeed do an AP Racing plate for £106 (ish) delivered, good for 200bhp. I've got the part number on the box in the garage if you want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Stanton Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 I got my HD all from SBD last year - mainly to avoid chasing around various parts suppliers and having to double check part No's - one phone call - parts compatible, ordered sorted and delivered Could you not swap/exchange your current unit and adjust any price differential if it hasn't been fitted / used Paul probably won't mind hijack now as he seems to have got his engine sorted from someone called "The Revverend Everall" - whoever he may be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Mark the clutch plate came with the lightened flywheel and is new'ish but not exchangeable. I don't really want to fork out more £££ unless it is absolutely necessary...but if the car will be a complete to drive off track, then I will change it. I actually have two paddle clutches ....anyone interested in a paddle clutch or two Cider...if you can post the part No. for the AP plate from Yukspeed then I would apprecaite it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidersurfer Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Cider...if you can post the part No. for the AP plate from Yukspeed then I would apprecaite it CP5351-1 Organic steel backed driven plate 1" x 23 spline, 276 Nm (203 lbsft) Torque Capacity. £108.18 delivered HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheatons3 Posted December 28, 2004 Author Share Posted December 28, 2004 Are you suggesting the SBD HD plate or can I get the equivalent somewhere else cheaper....sorry to hijack your thread Paul No Problem Interesting debate. I intend to use a Manta Gearbox (cos I have one) which has 14 splines against the ford boxes which have 23, so the paddle clutch Terry has is not of much use to me. Anyone else using this gearbox and if so which clutch did you use? Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Stanton Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 the clutch plate came with the lightened flywheel Ang on a bit then........ is the flywheel a lightened one or one of SBD's mega light and dinky ones if you get my drift Can you post a piccie Sorry Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Everall Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 The paddle clutch I used on lightened but standard diameter flywheel and clutch plate was no problem at all on the road!!!!! Before I fitted it some people said it would take a lot of getting used to but IT DID NOT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Okay here we go... Mark the flywheel is a SBD lightened one, but not the ultra light jobbie. No piccie I'm afraid the clutch is already fitted. Paul sorry but I can not help on the Manta gearbox...mine is a type 9. Terry your comments interest me...and they may save me £££ If I understand the basic's of the paddle clutch correctly and therefore the drawbacks, when using it for a car that will see road and track use. It is just a matter of it being slightly snappy (so to speak) If this is the case, then I can live with it when the car is doing road miles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatman Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 . It is just a matter of it being slightly snappy (so to speak) If this is the case, then I can live with it when the car is doing road miles Nope. Remember, a paddle has 1/4 (roughly) of the surface area of a normal plate, so it'll wear out 4 times faster. Plus, the friction material is thinner than a normal clutch too, further reducing service life. I reckon if you plan on much more than about 3000 to 5000 miles a year, then the clutch will be an annual job... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Cheers Blatman...food for thought. I have a week or two before I do my final engine fit....so some time left to decide which clutch to go with...all comments are gratefully received Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff10758 Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Are you suggesting the SBD HD plate or can I get the equivalent somewhere else cheaper....sorry to hijack your thread Paul No Problem Interesting debate. I intend to use a Manta Gearbox (cos I have one) which has 14 splines against the ford boxes which have 23, so the paddle clutch Terry has is not of much use to me. Anyone else using this gearbox and if so which clutch did you use? Paul Paul: Iam using a 2Lt cdx Carlton gearbox. I have found that a Carlton 2.3 deisel plate has the correct spline and is also the correct size (230mm) for my c20xe. I hope that is some help. Geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Stanton Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 If its the standard SBD lightened flywheel - my preference would be for HD rather than paddle - for reasons noted by many above If you have 2 paddles - keep one and sell one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Seabrook Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 . It is just a matter of it being slightly snappy (so to speak) If this is the case, then I can live with it when the car is doing road miles Nope. Remember, a paddle has 1/4 (roughly) of the surface area of a normal plate, so it'll wear out 4 times faster. Plus, the friction material is thinner than a normal clutch too, further reducing service life. I reckon if you plan on much more than about 3000 to 5000 miles a year, then the clutch will be an annual job... I have had a paddle clutch in my Zetec car for the last two years with one trip to a RWYB drag race (now more than 5000 road miles + the RWYB). The pedal feel is as good as when I fitted it so dont think its worn out yet. I was recommended a paddle clutch by my machine shop as being better than a sintered type you the racing I will be doing with my Vx car. The sintered type I have been told are harder to balance than a paddle clutch. The paddle clutch will handle more power than an organic clutch as well. It is down to what you are going to do with the car. As for paddle clutches being just for boy racers Looks like Blatters knows something R.R.E. and Dunnell dont as they have both recommended them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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