mike m Posted December 18, 2004 Posted December 18, 2004 mines plumbed in with a jet in the engine bay pointing at the carbs, and one centre dash pointing straight back with 2 pull handles to activate either side on the tub, grenade pin in the extinguisher to stop the kids pulling it while i nip out for a smoke Mike Quote
Matt Seabrook Posted December 18, 2004 Posted December 18, 2004 Garage. As for taking one in the car to be honest as long as I can get out of the car in a shunt which is the most likely time it will catch fire it can burn. The car is insured so it can be replaced I am not. Quote
Mark B Posted December 18, 2004 Posted December 18, 2004 passenger footwell for me, reason 1 for safety, reason 2 because it would be in the way of my arm inbetween the seats. Quote
neilwillis Posted December 18, 2004 Posted December 18, 2004 I'd suggest with the forces that can be generated in a crash, you ought to have the extinguisher bloted not to an ali panel, but to something structural. If it has to be an ali panel, back it with a sheet of metal acting as a doubler behind the ali to spread the load. I still think however that it is better down low, so if it does break loose, it's not going to hit something vital. I also think that it's hard using an extinguisher if it's just hit you in the side of the head, and knocked you out anyway. Quote
Frau Vesty Posted December 18, 2004 Posted December 18, 2004 Very true...don't think there's an easy answer really. How easily do things like cable ties snap? If it's too easy - same problem of breaking free. If it's too hard, far easier to jump out of car than produce small pair of scissors from pocket to cut extinguisher free. Personally my first priority would be to get the hell out of the car, i.e. to have a "quick release" harness for want of a better term, and to have a fire extinguisher accessible for either self or someone else to grab and put fire out if possible. So for me the passenger footwell would be ok because I would have no intention of staying in the seat and grabbing the extinguisher from there. I guess it's a bit like the burglary vs fire debate - you lock your front door at night - do you leave the key in the lock so that a burglar can possibly break a window and let themselves in, or do you take it out, meaning that you can't get out in the event of a fire... Quote
Martin Keene Posted December 18, 2004 Posted December 18, 2004 I agree that there is the possibility of flying extinguishers if they are mounted between the seats, I'm afriad it's not's a possibility... it will happen! The extinguisher I saw escape had been secured with a cable tie as well as it's cage and during the accident it broke free, smashed into the screen (making it approx halfway through the screen before the laminate stopped it) and bouncing back into the passenger seat. Fortunatley there wasn't a passenger in it at the time. So that answers the other question as well, cables ties will not help and as Felter's said it probably wouldn't take much to pull the mount out as well. And while we are on the subject of safety. If any of you are still running sans head rest... you wouldn't be if you'd see what I'd seen! IMHO, Low back seats are worse than not having a RAC bar. The chances of rolling a car are relatively small compared with the chances of some muppet running into the back of you... and if you haven't got head rest's think how far your head will go back before something stops it... Quote
pistonbroke Posted December 18, 2004 Posted December 18, 2004 On a specially made up bracket mounted to one leg of the barby Quote
Camel_Landy Posted December 18, 2004 Posted December 18, 2004 How about securing it with a bungee?? That way it can clobber you on the way out & then on the way back. I agree that the load needs to be spread if bolted to an ally pannel otherwise the whole lot will go into orbit if the extinguisher is secued to the cage!! As for the cable tie, it won't break but you can easily slide it down to a point where the bottle can come out. M Quote
hilux Posted December 18, 2004 Posted December 18, 2004 Just shocked and worried when I see all these photos of cars with extinguishers in between the two seats...appears at a rough guess 20-25% of people do this Good thread........... Anyone who puts theirs between the seats is obviously not aware of the laws of physics. 0.6kg at 40 mph......think about it and then think what its like at 80 mph. Do yourselves a favour, stop posing and put it where its safer and secured to a chassis member with bolts and metal strap/s as a minimum to secure it even there. You wont need to reach it sitting down cos the 1st thing you`ll do is get out of the car and if you do then fit it under the passenger knees bolted to the chassis member. If (and its a big if) you have proper spreader plates behind the ally wher its fitted between the seats I might get in the car with you but I`d want to see the photos 1st PS: if you`ve ever fought a small fuel fire on a car you`ll know that the little extinguishers between the seats are far too small anyway (2kg is minimum in my book) and designed for chip pan fires etc so fitting a bigger one elsewhere is a safety issue also. Another one that amazes me is how many of you have the battery (how heavy is that ) fixed to the front scuttle or bolted to the ally panel behind the engine. Where`s that going to go at 40 mph or 80 :oops On Ford engines its certainly gonna take off your carbs/bobble throtties etc as it passes through the bonnet and nose cone and embeds itself into whatever you`ve just collided with so you`ll certainly need a fuel cut off switch..... Fit it in the footwell or above the diff (although I tend to keep batteries away from petrol tanks in case of rear end shunts. ) or create a proper cage bolted to the scuttle chassis members. Rant over........ Quote
Buzz Billsberry Posted December 18, 2004 Posted December 18, 2004 located in engine bay! nice one Finney Buzz Quote
neville Posted December 18, 2004 Posted December 18, 2004 One point thats been missed by the "on the floor" brigade is that if you are (a) slightly lardy and (b) over six feet tall, then having a fire extinguisher on the floor of the drivers footwell turns geting into a Westfield into an almost imposible exercise. Quote
8336 Posted December 18, 2004 Posted December 18, 2004 Hi On Ford engines its certainly gonna take off your carbs/bobble throtties etc as it passes through the bonnet and nose cone and embeds itself into whatever you`ve just collided with so you`ll certainly need a fuel cut off switch..... Don't see the need. If it's gone that far it's hardly likely to be supplying any electricity, so all circuits will be dead. John G Quote
Martin Keene Posted December 18, 2004 Posted December 18, 2004 One point thats been missed by the "on the floor" brigade is that if you are (a) slightly lardy and (b) over six feet tall, then having a fire extinguisher on the floor of the drivers footwell turns geting into a Westfield into an almost imposible exercise. Most people put them on the passenger side. I've never seen one on the drivers side, but that's not to say it hasn't been done. Quote
hilux Posted December 19, 2004 Posted December 19, 2004 under your/your passengers knees........... Quote
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