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[cjwood23]

Built another bike and tidied the work bench & tool wall.

 

[Davemk1]

On 12/01/2024 at 04:25, Ian Kinder (Bagpuss) - Joint Peak District AO said:

Hi @Davemk1 I built my S2000 with a small denso type Alternator in 2016 and I've covered circa 32,000 miles since then. It's not been plain sailing, but I'd still recommend you doing the same. Details in my build thread here- Bagpuss build thread

 

If I was to do it again, I'd do the same again.

 

As a fellow S2000 user, regular visits to the 9000rpm redline are made by me. I chose the alternator pulley size to ensure the alternator doesn't seen north of 18000 rpm. Charging at the 1100 rpm idle isn't a problem.

 

My first alternator was a e-bay special and didn't last too long (the charge warning light started to flicker above 5000 rpm)

 

I replaced this with Denso branded item from GBS Cars and that's been fine ever since. I did have a concern last spring with a noise sometimes, so I took it off and took it to an alternator specialist and they confirmed the bearings to be fine and tested it electrical as fine too (free of charge as well).

 

I then used a laser light to align the pulley correcly with the 4 groove belt to the crank pulley and it's been quiet every since.

 

From my build thread, you'll see there has been some 'evolution' of brakets and tests of different types of tensioners.

 

My current large alloy bottom bracket and upper steel bracket have been fine. Though I did have the bottom alternator hole bushed so it didn't rock on the bolt. The two bolt fixing syem isn't ideal. I'd prefer 3.

 

Given you do much lower mileage than me, I'm sure you'll be fine.

 

Drop me a PM if you wish to have a call and talk any of this through.

 

Best regards,

Ian

 

Whelp - I finally had the stars align and I had the needed parts, and the time, so I got the new Denso alternator fit to the S2000. The alternator itself is a good bit lighter and that was expected (the Honda unit weighs 5.2kg) so that was easy weigh loss. I also ditched the stock belt tensioning system and that saved nearly as much weight as the alternator did. In total the weight loss was 3.9 kg (8.6 lbs) and as an added bonus it comes off the driver's side of my car. This should bring total car weight down to 545 kg at this point.

 

The alt charges at the desired 14.6 volts and I spun the engine up to 9000 rpms a few times and nothing went bang and came fly up through the engine cover so I think I'm off to a good start. Once we get some warmer weather I'll put some miles on it just to be sure but I suspect it will work out fine.

 

Maybe now it will finally start snowing here so I can stop fussing around in the garage and snowboard instead...a boy can dream during the warmest and driest winter in 30+ years here.

 

dave

 

 

[Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman]

I recall, when Phill Lloyd was building his S2000 engined car, he changed from stock, to Jenvey ITB, a small Denso alternator and an electric water pump. He weighed what came off and what went back on. (So loosing stock TB and manifold, alternator, water pump, belt tensioner etc).

 

I'm sure he said even with the new parts fitted, he'd saved something like 17 KG

[eggontoast]

16 minutes ago, Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman said:

I recall, when Phill Lloyd was building his S2000 engined car, he changed from stock, to Jenvey ITB, a small Denso alternator and an electric water pump. He weighed what came off and what went back on. (So loosing stock TB and manifold, alternator, water pump, belt tensioner etc).

 

I'm sure he said even with the new parts fitted, he'd saved something like 17 KG

 

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[Flying Carrot Steve]

12 hours ago, Davemk1 said:

Whelp - I finally had the stars align and I had the needed parts, and the time, so I got the new Denso alternator fit to the S2000. The alternator itself is a good bit lighter and that was expected (the Honda unit weighs 5.2kg) so that was easy weigh loss. I also ditched the stock belt tensioning system and that saved nearly as much weight as the alternator did. In total the weight loss was 3.9 kg (8.6 lbs) and as an added bonus it comes off the driver's side of my car. This should bring total car weight down to 545 kg at this point.

 

The alt charges at the desired 14.6 volts and I spun the engine up to 9000 rpms a few times and nothing went bang and came fly up through the engine cover so I think I'm off to a good start. Once we get some warmer weather I'll put some miles on it just to be sure but I suspect it will work out fine.

 

Maybe now it will finally start snowing here so I can stop fussing around in the garage and snowboard instead...a boy can dream during the warmest and driest winter in 30+ years here.

 

dave

 

 

That engine looks so tall! I'm amazed it fits under a Westfield bonnet. 

[Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman]

1 hour ago, Flying Carrot Steve said:

That engine looks so tall! I'm amazed it fits under a Westfield bonnet. 

 

Only fits under a V8 bonnet. It's a massive engine for a 2 litre 4 pot!

 

[Flying Carrot Steve]

13 minutes ago, Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman said:

 

Only fits under a V8 bonnet. It's a massive engine for a 2 litre 4 pot!

 

I'm still amazed cos my Zetec Turbo only fits under a V8 bonnet and then only just!

[Marcus Barlow - Show and Events Co-ordinator]

On 28/01/2024 at 18:29, Marcus Barlow - Show and Events Co-ordinator said:

Cycle stays immersed in rust remover 😎

now primed, sprayed and laquered 😎

[DarrenK]

Amazing what a bit of autosol will do. Before and after.

[joolz]

I've spent a bit of time on my new westy today ..

Bled the brakes .. well what a task. Looking through the many threads on here it seems it's a bit of an ordeal, and not wrong. It's ford stuff how hard can it be? answer = flipping frustrating. In the end I cable tied the calipers to the rear springs to get the bleed nipples at a favourable angle, used my vacuum bleeder, and still haven't really managed to get it rock hard, but it's better than it was.

Also slackened the handbrake cable, the lever arms were half way through their arc and the self adjusters don't work unless the caliper levers go all the way back. That handbrake cable adjuster is a pain to get to .. wish i had known you access through the top of the transmission tunnel before i put my new seats in! Would have been much easier with no seats. 

 

Also investigated more of the ecu stuff .. have made some changes to enable lambda correction more of the time (the learn limits were really narrow, no wonder the ecu had barely learned any adaptive values). I need to get it on the dyno and make sure it's performing well too. The throttle sensor was misaligned so at idle the ecu was seeing load site 3, so have corrected that so it reads load site 1 at idle. It also seems to be missing its ford coolant temp sensor, so the generic bosch one fitted was making the ecu read 80degC when cold, so cold starts and warmup running were poor. ive made a rough guess for the temp/volts table so now it reads a sensible value at cold, and seems to trim well up to 100degC.

 

Also found out the rad fan switch doesn't seem to work, so will get a new one of those. Not sure if the ecu can switch a fan control output, but it's easier just to have it off a thermoswitch anyway.

 

anyway that's enough playtime for a day .. time to earn some money now.

[DarrenK]

Time to get everything bolted back together

[Stuart Davis AO - Devon Cornwall & Somerset]

Non Westfield related…. Hired a decent ladder and cleaned our guttering out. We are right on the A30 in Crewkerne, albeit in a 20mph zone which everyone ignores. Nobody seemed to want to take the job on, so me and the Mrs parked our cars infront of the house early on Sunday morning and I got it done.
 

I’m not a great fan of heights so the knees were knocking a bit, but we had a few comedy moments when trying to manoeuvre the ladder, and I managed to splatter the Mrs with mud dropped from height which fortunately she took on the chin, almost literally 🤣.

[Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman]

Well done! Where's the video? 

[ianali]

30 minutes ago, Stuart Davis (fatblokestu) AO- Devon & Somerset said:

Non Westfield related…. Hired a decent ladder and cleaned our guttering out. We are right on the A30 in Crewkerne, albeit in a 20mph zone which everyone ignores. Nobody seemed to want to take the job on, so me and the Mrs parked our cars infront of the house early on Sunday morning and I got it done.
 

I’m not a great fan of heights so the knees were knocking a bit, but we had a few comedy moments when trying to manoeuvre the ladder, and I managed to splatter the Mrs with mud dropped from height which fortunately she took on the chin, almost literally 🤣.

Spookily, after copying your door idea, I also cleaned out gutters out Saturday just gone. I am also not great with heights but was a brave boy. Oddly enough i through a large lump of crud straight onto my wife’s head. 
 

 

[Stuart Davis AO - Devon Cornwall & Somerset]

2 hours ago, Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman said:

Well done! Where's the video? 

I did think about taking some photos but in reality was too scared to do it! 😬