Sick of the size of me….. 🤪

[MR.C]

It's not really rocket science.

Eat more than your body burns get fatter, use more  than you consume you get thinner.

Match the two stay roughly the same.

Everything else is just excuses to yourself.

[corsechris]

At the risk of too random a thread drift….most of my life I have considered myself to be mentally ‘f***** up’. But as time passes, I begin to think that perhaps I’m not quite so messed up as I thought and that there are an awful lot of folk in the world in a much worse state than me.

[corsechris]

1 hour ago, MR.C said:

It's not really rocket science.

Eat more than your body burns get fatter, use more  than you consume you get thinner.

Match the two stay roughly the same.

Everything else is just excuses to yourself.

Already said that. 

[Stuart Davis AO - Devon Cornwall & Somerset]

2 hours ago, MR.C said:

It's not really rocket science.

Eat more than your body burns get fatter, use more  than you consume you get thinner.

Match the two stay roughly the same.

Everything else is just excuses to yourself.

Absolutely right, there are generally no other excuses except perhaps for some medications or conditions that can cause problems.

 

I have no one to blame but myself, but the good thing about that is that it is completely within my power to do something about! All going well so far, had a really active day in and around the house doing jobs.

[Stuart Davis AO - Devon Cornwall & Somerset]

27 minutes ago, corsechris said:

At the risk of too random a thread drift….most of my life I have considered myself to be mentally ‘f***** up’. But as time passes, I begin to think that perhaps I’m not quite so messed up as I thought and that there are an awful lot of folk in the world in a much worse state than me.

I think many/most people are in some way, shape or form!

[Stuart Davis AO - Devon Cornwall & Somerset]

As of this morning, I’m 19st 11lb. I’ll update once a week to keep myself honest!

[MR.C]

You do that, you owe it to yourself.

[SootySport]

I've slowly gained 2st. Since I retired 5 years ago..   I found eating the same foods but 1/3 less in bulk has helped stem the increase in weight.  Wifey and daughter make oh so nice cakes so I can't stop having them either, just have 1/2 a portion now. Still like chocolate but instead of munching a whole bar of cheap stuff like Cadbury or Roses, I now buy better quality like Hotel and Lindt and limit myself to a 1/4 of what I had before.   

A bonus to having home made cakes is a lot less sugar goes into their making and the same with decent chocolate.   

Booze,. Yes I do drink beer wine and occasional single malt but again, less than I used to but better quality drinks and I appreciate all that I consume and never feel hungry.  

Couple other things  I can recommend is drink lots of water and gentle exercise, just walking is good enough for me.

Another good topic Stu for us guys on men's health, great idea.

Bernie.

[corsechris]

As @SootySportsaid, drink lots of water. The ‘you aren’t hungry’ you’re thirsty’ trick works well, following this thread I’ve started doing that again too - get the munchies, down a glass of water instead. Or two, or however many it takes

[jeff oakley]

19 hours ago, MR.C said:

It's not really rocket science.

Eat more than your body burns get fatter, use more  than you consume you get thinner.

Match the two stay roughly the same.

Everything else is just excuses to yourself.

 

As I said I had my first session with an NHS appointed person yesterday and previous to that I would have agreed with your statement. It is sort of true, however when I said that to her she replied " if I had a pound for every time I hear that I would be very rich" She is a fully qualified nutritionist and expert in weight loss management. 

 

The problem is we are all differrent. My brother drank and ate to excess, he would clear huge meals did not exercise and yet was stick thin all his life. He was not unique, we all know people like that and envy them. Then there are people who are the opposite eating little yet losing nothing.

 

What is a known issue is our metabolism changes as we age and our bodies are designed to carry fat in the winter from early man days. How we burn that fat off is the key. for some, like my brother, it was likely his Thyroid was over active like many others but as they have no issues and are not overweight they are lucky.

 

My own Thyroid function is a bit slow but the endocrinologist Consultant will never prescribe a drug level to be over active so two people same meal one will burn it off the other will only burn part off.

 

So some of the things she said, fruit eaten raw is great, if in a smoothie bad as the process of blending makes the fructose come out and that gives a sugar spike. 

Processed food is bad, even say Bran flakes which are healthy contain sugar, and if you look at any label it is shocking how much is in there, look at baked beans for that as an example, the bean is good but the sauce contains a lot of sugar. 

 

So many other things, stress is a real issue for weight gain, we eat for comfort. 

Eating too fast, means we derive little benefit so instead of the body burning some reserves it looks for sugar spikes.

Sleep. We need quality sleep that is 7-8 hours per night of deep sleep.

 

Already I have had several articles sent to explain in detail by her and they make sense. As she said if losing weight was as simple as the statement then we would not have the obesity epidemic we have. For me I have been following calorie reduction diets for years with some success, but actually my calorie deficit needs to be higher than the information I had previously been given.

 

Yes at the end I make no excuse but I have a better understanding of where I have gone wrong after yesterday than I had before.    

 

 

 

[corsechris]

All that is true, but ultimately, the simplistic eat less do more is true, as is the eat too much, get fat. The key is to figure out what works for you, not someone else or some generic average.

 

From my perspective, all the complications are potentially dangerous as they can provide excuses. Knowing them may help tailor eating habits, but again, if you eat too much for you, for what you eat and what you do, weight goes up.

 

There was a really good program some years back, maybe Horizon, which addressed all these points and reached the conclusion I make above. It debunked pretty much every myth I had been holding on to so desperately for such a long time.

 

Yes, expert nutritional advice will help, of course.

[jeff oakley]

Yes I get that Chris, however it is the fact that is someone keeps saying eat less and you do and it still does not work there has to be a reason. it is not looking for excuses it is looking for valid reasons as to what is going wrong.  Understanding what it is is the key but unless you know we really are putting a sticking plaster on a cut when we should be taking the knife off ourselves.

 

I am ever optimistic that what I learnt yesterday will help me to lose it and keep it off

[Stuart Davis AO - Devon Cornwall & Somerset]

In my case, I think I can take a relatively simplistic view of it. I know that I put on weight when I eat too much, and particularly too much sugar which brings on major cravings. I do eat due to stress and depression, and have also suffered in the past from severe back pain which limited my ability to exercise and increased comfort eating, a classic vicious circle. Most of these things are made more complex by mental factors.

I also know that after two or three days without sugar, my cravings go away, and that when I exercise my mood improves and I am more likely to eat more healthily. As the weight comes off, aches and pains go away and exercise becomes easier too.

 

I had a bad chest infection which knocked me over for about five weeks at the back of me of the year, and am now feeling a bit more like my old self.

 

Currently I have cravings under control and am eating much better, but need to start some exercise soon. Will get there this week hopefully.

[corsechris]

Evolution has played a dirty trick on some of us more than others. We are a famine species so are wired up to binge when we can. When you add sedentary lifestyles and food-toxic environments then some of us are going to have a hard time of it.

 

Understanding what works best for you is the key. Whatever works is good.

[Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman]

2 hours ago, jeff oakley said:

It's not really rocket science.

Eat more than your body burns get fatter, use more  than you consume you get thinner.

Match the two stay roughly the same.

Everything else is just excuses to yourself.

 

This is the sort of dogmatically damaging approach that also leads to umpteen mental health issues, from body image problems to full blown eating disorders, let alone depression, anxiety and addiction. All of which then tend to either make the original issue of weight gain worse, or in the most catastrophic cases, cause such a massive reversal that physical health can be damaged permanently, even to the very extreme cases of death.