Barnsley John Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 So over the oast 20 yrs or so i have had terible ciculation in my hands and they are allways freezing cold even in summer and so tried all sorts of heated gloves etc for kit car walking cycling Right i have some heated gloves with 3 heat settings and the battery pack shown in pics they are ok but battery needs full power for ne and ysally only then lasts about 1 hr 30 Can i make sum spare battery packs by buying some rechargable batterys a bit of wiring and sum heat shrinlk up they look like a simple joby and then i could carry spares in car etc i would have to be shown how to wire in a sequence etc and solder a charging wire on them also making sure its safe to charge So any wiring gurus out there I dont think i can buy spares bats from the glove company thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigHew Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Id be looking at buying extra batteries from another source. So long as the output is the same voltage and wattage. I know you're asking about wiring ( to wire in series just connect the +ve end of 1 battery to the negative end of the next )but my solution is a pair of motorcycle inner gloves (keis) that plug into the car's supply. I was sceptical at first but they fit under a pair of seslskin gloves (i bought a large size for winter). They also plug into my heated vest if needed. You can buy keis batteries too if you use them away from the car. I was going to buy regular heater biker gloves but they're very bulky, unlike the thin inner gloves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TableLeg Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Anyway you could convert them to allow you power from the car? 12v to 7.4 regulator? A connector maybe next to the handbrake to plug into. Just a thought. @Ian Kinder (Bagpuss) - Joint Peak District AOwould be able to advise I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnsley John Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 They are seal skinz gloves llarge but tight on me so no way for inner gloves i can recharge them via a usb port on westy as i nade a relayed power supply when ignition off to be able to charge wen say you leave car fir dinner but i also use them mountainbiking and walking dog so hence a spare pack to take out with me On a run or walk I am ok with soldering and just knowing wat recharganle cells to get wiring them in seies or parallell? And a charger port wire that looks like you could get from any wiring shop but its needing a drawing with the right gear to get Thanks john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigHew Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Series, +ve to negative. In your instance, 2 x 3.7v li-po batteries joined in series within a suitable case (ebay).... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICHARD+PHILIP Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Be a bit careful with Lipo batteries if you discharge them too low they have a tendancy to go pop. My point is that there might be some small electrical circuitry in the heat shrink sleave to prevent over discharge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnsley John Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 Good point i understand a little about the lipos Thats why i am a little reluctant to make some up i would sooner buy some made up but last time i looked i did not see spare batterys from the company I did have sum hloves a few year ago from blazeware and could get batteries seperate Im not jumping into this but more info is better than dooing something stupid with batts I dont want to be waving as i go by my mate dez in is duratek and my hands on fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Kinder (Bagpuss) - Joint Peak District AO Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 4 hours ago, TableLeg said: Anyway you could convert them to allow you power from the car? 12v to 7.4 regulator? A connector maybe next to the handbrake to plug into. Just a thought. @Ian Kinder (Bagpuss) - Joint Peak District AOwould be able to advise I'm sure. As suggested, why charge batteries when you're driving in round in a car with an Alternator on? I assume you've seen this- As others have said, you need to be careful how you charge and discharge such devices. Do you have any details on the gloves? How does the temperature selector work on them? If they last 1.5H hours and the battery is rated at 16.28Wh, it suggests they pull 10.8W on full power, which translates into 1.5A. So throw the batteries and run the gloves direct of the 12V in the car! Hence you need a circuit with an 8V regulator running off a 12V ignition feed that's good for 5A. Try this fella- https://uk.farnell.com/seagate/ip3r18k05/ic-v-reg-5-0v-18k05-to-3-2/dp/1202002?st=voltage regulator 8v 5a It will need a heat sink and mounting in a box etc. You'll need suitable connectors/leads to wire up to your gloves too. I'd suggest they connect to the base of your jacket and run down the sleeves to each glove (Like a toddlers mittens). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnsley John Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 Sorry only gave you half the stuff so the charger i use mains or in kit car is shown in pics this came with the seal skinz gloves julie as sum I dont charge them with any other thing as dangerous as said All i wanted was spare battery packs to put in not for car as i have a usb the sealskinz charger goes into also can be charged plugging into PC with the right charger Its when i go cycling in the cold if i am out for a goo lenghth of time it would be handy having a spare set of battrries Sorry if i havent explained properly hope this makes more scence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie Hall - WSCC AO Representative Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 As John said, I also have a pair of the same gloves and although they are very good at keeping your digits toasty, the batteries do not last long enough. When the batteries run out they go straight to OFF and that's it, no warning or running them on low for a while, which is frustrating. An easy solution is just to buy another pair of gloves (Valentines Day 😍 is looming, tell Jacky). Use the batteries that come with the second pair and when you have worn the original gloves out, you have a spare pair of gloves. They are good gloves without the batteries too. In Barnsley language this translates to, get your purse out John😃 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tolf Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, Julie Hall - Peak District AO said: As John said, I also have a pair of the same gloves and although they are very good at keeping your digits toasty, the batteries do not last long enough. When the batteries run out they go straight to OFF and that's it, no warning or running them on low for a while, which is frustrating. An easy solution is just to buy another pair of gloves (Valentines Day 😍 is looming, tell Jacky). Use the batteries that come with the second pair and when you have worn the gloves out, you have a spare pair. They are good gloves without the batteries too. In Barnsley language this translates to, get your purse out John😃 @Julie Hall - Peak District AO How much are the gloves to purchase? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnsley John Posted February 2, 2021 Author Share Posted February 2, 2021 I julie mine were around £120 you got yours i think from Buxton or one of them shops around 2 yrr ago if i am right and are same I just seen sum batterys on amozan for a deer hunter glove and look exactly same battery £40 a pair for baterys Hence can ya make sum up for a lot less It looks like its probably not worth the hassell as more of a safety point as get it wrong charging them could go tixxts up garage on fire westy burnt out and only warm thing would be tha ashes afterwards Wen you initially look at the bat pack you think oh yes 2 x recharhable nicads from Tesco stick em together with a bit of wire and a charger port But thats not the case more technical than that but how can they justyfi £40 a pair of batterys Guess i live in wrong area if country were our giros and shell suites cannot buy anything over £4.99 Stay safe stop in And we will get in westys again thanks john 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Kinder (Bagpuss) - Joint Peak District AO Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 @Barnsley John do you not like my idea of running the gloves from the car battery (via a 8V regulator), without the batteries in the gloves? This would give you heat all day long if required? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hunter - Club Secretary Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 I bought some of these recently along with a heated softshell jacket... obviously not "Westfield tested" yet but seem toasty enough. The battery packs are made of two standard 18650 3.7v batteries in a case with a simple (and universal) micro USB charging connection. Almost disposable at 30 quid 🤷♂️ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie Hall - WSCC AO Representative Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 John, Glen would like to put forward his idea too, if he may please. He says that you could use your Winter Fuel Payment to pay for the batteries, although you may have to turn the radiators down to offset the gas bill. You do have gas in Barnsley don't you? 😁 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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