Blatman Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, Lyonspride said: and we've been told for decades or more that there is no possible vaccine for the common cold. Basic flaw in this is that the common cold mutates very very often, which is why there is no vaccination or cure. While we can treat the symptoms of a cold, we cannot find a single cure as there are so many types of virus and they mutate rapidly. Therefore, in the time it takes to develop a vaccine, it is no longer useful. From here but I'm sure a look through any medical text will say the same thing. There's no conspiracy... Quote
Blatman Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Arm said: I pondered earlier on the chicken pox parties we had as kids. I don't know if they still do them . Ah, pox parties... we called it "going to school" 'cos in London, there were thousands of kids at school and on the busses. We could help but mix with innumerable other kids. I was lucky to have had them all (mumps, german measles and chicken pox, all of them at least twice assuming I remember correctly. It was a long time ago...) before I was 12. Quote
Steve (sdh2903) Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 The problem is we are at kind of a half way house. We are not really going for herd immunity like Sweden. But we arent locking down either. When the Chinese, italians and Spanish did lock down they did it properly. So as we are, i can only foresee things going on for a very long time in limbo. Quote
Arm Posted April 20, 2020 Author Posted April 20, 2020 Chris Broster. Much our thoughts also and assuming we havnt already had it. Wife also suggested later and after the high point. I thought earlier whilst nhs care is strong ie I can see that now. I can't see what it will be in 3 or 6 months. But it's just a guess and hypothetical question. Quote
Lyonspride Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, Blatman said: Basic flaw in this is that the common cold mutates very very often, which is why there is no vaccination or cure. From here but I'm sure a look through any medical text will say the same thing. There's no conspiracy... I'm actually aware of this, read that stuff a long time ago, I think it's been mentioned on TV too. But this is actually why it'll be interesting to see if a vaccine is forthcoming, it's been established that this virus is massively similar to the common cold and if we don't have a vaccine for that, then how do they hope to have one for this? Quote
Blatman Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Steve (sdh2903) said: When the Chinese, italians and Spanish did lock down they did it properly. Reports from those countries suggest they had issues with people breaking quarantine just like we see here. For example... General consensus was we are about a couple of weeks to a month behind the near continent. Lets see if that remains true or if we start to get ahead of that. Quote
Blatman Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Lyonspride said: it's been established that this virus is massively similar to the common cold and if we don't have a vaccine for that, then how do they hope to have one for this? Except that it's capacity for mutation seems to be not so prevalent. https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-mutation-rate.html And there is always an assumption that mutations will be "bad" for humans. This is not necessarily so. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/25/820998549/the-coronavirus-is-mutating-but-that-may-not-be-a-problem-for-humans?t=1587391479789 Quote
Steve (sdh2903) Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Blatman said: Reports from those countries suggest they had issues with people breaking quarantine just like we see here. For example... General consensus was we are about a couple of weeks to a month behind the near continent. Lets see if that remains true or if we start to get ahead of that. Bet they didnt have 2-300 people queuing around a car park to get into a DIY store that's been deemed 'essential' though. Quote
Blatman Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Steve (sdh2903) said: Bet they didnt have 2-300 people queuing around a car park to get into a DIY store that's been deemed 'essential' though. Dunno. I'll have a look... Quote
Blatman Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Steve (sdh2903) said: Bet they didnt have 2-300 people queuing around a car park to get into a DIY store that's been deemed 'essential' though. Plenty of long queue stories but didn't find any specifically DIY related. Quote
Steve (sdh2903) Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Blatman said: Plenty of long queue stories but didn't find any specifically DIY related. Reassuring Quote
Blatman Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Steve (sdh2903) said: Reassuring I spent a whole 5 minutes looking so I wouldn't hang out the bunting just yet 1 Quote
TAFKARM Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 5 hours ago, Alan France said: How about this? Stay at Home Protect the NHS Save Lives Further advice will follow, based on more data from medical experts. Agree and I’ve added a bit! 2 Quote
Lyonspride Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Blatman said: Plenty of long queue stories but didn't find any specifically DIY related. Here's one https://www.wickes.co.uk/ In case you view this at a later time.... I have NEVER before seen a queue to use a bl**** website 🤫 Not sure if it's a joke or they're just trying emulate a queuing experience for the benefit for us Brits 🤣 Quote
Steve (sdh2903) Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 This is less than a quarter of the queue waiting to get into the paisley store. It was up to around a 2 hour wait yesterday. 1 Quote
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