Greenstreak-Andy D Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 Gents, Just wanted to run this past you all prior to getting on with the update. My Mac Book OS is telling me current MS Office 2011 is running 32 bit and the latest and greatest OS needs 64 bit, hence the update to MS Office 2019. The Mac Book is used by family and has 5 accounts on it. Currently on MS Office 2011. As a bit of a IT numpty, do I just hit update and type in the code, or should I uninstall the 2011, or de-activate accounts and just have an administrator account? If I uninstall MS Office and then update the OS, is that better prior to going to MS 2019? Probably other options too, what do you guys suggest? Thanks Andy Quote
CraigHew Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 Andy I'm not a Mac expert (as I consider Apple to be the Devil) but you need to ensure your operating system (OS) is 64 bit before the upgrade. On a PC the OS can either be 32 or 64 bit. Software such as MS Office etc will come either in 64 bit or 32 bit flavour and usually hit compatibility problems if they don't align with the OS. For a software upgrade of MS Office you'd just hit the button and upgrade. All your personal setting should carry over to the new version. You could go the torturous route and un-install the old version having de-activated the accounts but the gains are marginal. The vast vast majority of people just hit the upgrade button. As stated above, I don't use Mac's...... Quote
Ian Kinder (Bagpuss) - Joint Peak District AO Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 I'm sure you'll need to pass Bill Gates some money at some point too Quote
Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 The Mac Andy is talking about is 64 bit, the current flavour of the OS does allow 32 bit programs to be installed, but I believe that support has been dropped, so in order to keep the OS current from here on in, all programs need to be 64 bit, as well. Personally, knowing how complex a set up it is in terms of multiple users, I’d just back everything up and upgrade in place. Clean-sheeting things and starting over may have some benefits normally, but in this case, restoring every users privileges and folder structure “perfectly” is going to be a right pain, and probably outweighs any benefits. Quote
Greenstreak-Andy D Posted January 3, 2020 Author Posted January 3, 2020 8 hours ago, Ian Kinder (Bagpuss) - Joint Peak District AO said: I'm sure you'll need to pass Bill Gates some money at some point too Unless you know something I don’t, then most likely... agreed So I will update the OS first, rendering the current MS Office useless, then go for the MS Office 2019? Gulp! I hate computers! You may be getting a phone call @Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Secretary at some point over the weekend! Thanks for the replies gents Andy 1 Quote
Ian Kinder (Bagpuss) - Joint Peak District AO Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 8 hours ago, Greenstreak-Andy D said: Unless you know something I don’t, then most likely... agreed So I will update the OS first, rendering the current MS Office useless, then go for the MS Office 2019? Gulp! I hate computers! You may be getting a phone call @Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Secretary at some point over the weekend! Thanks for the replies gents Andy Hi @Greenstreak-Andy D, I've just remembered Lauren get's office 365 free through a school account. Have a look here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/education/products/office Perhaps Oscar or his school can get similar? Before you do the OS update- assume you'll loose everything on the PC and hence ensure that you've got copies of all data for all accounts stored off the PC either in the Apple cloud or on a portable HDD, photo's, e-mails, word/xls documents etc. Quote
Greenstreak-Andy D Posted January 4, 2020 Author Posted January 4, 2020 All done! I have impressed myself! So, just for those out there that may be doing a similar update, i took these steps... 1. Did a bit of a tidy up, deleting unused applications, files etc, then empty the trash! 2. Did a full backup using Mac's 'time machine' 3. Oh i did the same on all family accounts on the Mac. 4. Installed MD Office 2019 following the on screen prompts https://support.office.com/en-us/article/how-do-i-upgrade-office-ee68f6cf-422f-464a-82ec-385f65391350?ui=en-US&rs=en-US&ad=US 5. Once installed and i checked 'Word, Excel and Powerpoint' all worked, i then deleted MS Office 2011. This was simply done by selecting the old application from 'finder' window and drag the old application to trash. 6. Removed old app in the 'dock' on all accounts. 7. Did the 're-start'. 8. All up and running, fantastic. 9. Update the OS to MacOS Catalina 10. Re-start Very relieved it all worked out ok. Andy 2 Quote
Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 Well done Andy! Quote
Kingster Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 Well done - spent Friday updating my iMac following an upgrade to an SSD Software took ages but the hardware side was a bit daunting and involved cutting the entire screen off! 1 Quote
Greenstreak-Andy D Posted January 5, 2020 Author Posted January 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Chris King - Webmaster and Joint North East AO said: Well done - spent Friday updating my iMac following an upgrade to an SSD Software took ages but the hardware side was a bit daunting and involved cutting the entire screen off! OMG! way way way beyond my capabilities! Hope it was worth the pain! Andy Quote
Kingster Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Greenstreak-Andy D said: Hope it was worth the pain! Definitely! my old 2012 iMac now feels sooooo much faster - the 500gb SSD loads up in seconds compared to many slow minutes from the HDD. Well worth the scary dismantling process 😁 Quote
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