F1, penalty or no penalty? (Poss spoilers)

[Steve (sdh2903)]

Discuss. 

It's a no from me.

[MCB]

No from me too, it spoiled a good race

[Simon Waterfall Syman84]

Was just coming on to start this topic. 

The FIA are useless, I have to unfortunately side with Zi German on this occasion 

 

Racing is racing Ham was putting vettle under pressure which caused the error but it was a racing incident 

 

No penalty from me as well

[Captain Colonial]

Penalty from me.  Unsafe rejoin after an off, cut across LH which forced him to take avoiding action.  SV put himself on the grass, it was his responsibility to rejoin safely.

 

His behaviour afterwards was an absolute disgrace.  If my kid acted like that, moved the boards and blamed everyone but himself, I’d ground him for a week.  He still finished second for heaven’s sake.

[Kevin (Mr T)]

It's a no from me

[Steve (sdh2903)]

18 minutes ago, Captain Colonial said:

SV put himself on the grass, it was his responsibility to rejoin safely.

Absolutely agree he put himself there but how do you slow down over grass? Impossible. I actually think SV did everything he could to not cause a much bigger accident. If he hadn't caught the rear hed have been in the wall and probably collect LH in the process. 

 

21 minutes ago, Captain Colonial said:

blamed everyone

 

I dont think he did? Yes he blamed the stewards but never imparted any blame to anyone else? He even told the crowd not to boo Lewis as wasnt his fault. 

[Alfascozzesi]

Just finished watching on catch up and although a big LH fan SV comes out of it better I think.

 

LH was quickto get the team to forward the complaint  during the race and then completely about faced when interviewed, it wasn’t me!! Wasn’t my descision!!

 

Shouldnt have been a penalty full stop.

 

 

 

 

[Alfascozzesi]

SV should have been more vocal at the time over the radio and it may have been different

[Captain Colonial]

SV "If I go on the inside he passes me"

If that doesn't suggest that SV was well aware of what he was doing I don't know what does.

[Steve (sdh2903)]

He said 'if he goes on the inside he passes me' referring to LH.

 

I dont think that was possible but that's what he said

[Alfascozzesi]

He knows where the car went after the event so can comment after. Your point infers intention to squeeze. If you look at the footage there isn’t any room even to stay off the track on the left if he could have done but it being grass highly unlikely!! He would be skidding and any movement of the wheel would have had him in a skid and the wall.

 

As I have said a LH fan. Travelled to Singapore to see him race but LH shouldn’t have won it. It’s racing not best health and safety.

[Alfascozzesi]

Just now, Steve (sdh2903) said:

He said 'if he goes on the inside he passes me' referring to LH.

 

I dont think that was possible but that's what he said

Agree he said that and I too do t think LH could have as he was still pinned on the racing line. SV was still not in control and if I thought he had done a Schumacher I would have been outraged.

[Alfascozzesi]

17 minutes ago, Alfascozzesi said:

SV should have been more vocal at the time over the radio and it may have been different

 

I am afraid that what you say on the radio (which everyone knows goes out live to the world) has too much effect on the mortals who are making real time decisions.

 

Perhaps giving time and making these decisions after completion would be the answer especially if the penalty is to applied after anyway.

[Rory's Dad]

17 minutes ago, Alfascozzesi said:

 

Perhaps giving time and making these decisions after completion would be the answer especially if the penalty is to applied after anyway.

 

Exactly! 

[Man On The Clapham Omnibus]

A simple remedy for Sebastian would have been to pull a >5 seconds gap - easy if he's so superior! I have yet to watch the race so I may be being a little facetious... 

 

I've just watched it on Youtube and while SV did not turn the wheel towards LH, he made no attempt at all to turn away either. It's a case of passive obstruction IMHO. Maybe a more acceptable punishment would have been to have deemed that advantage was gained by SV and that he should have been compelled to allow LH past? He certainly should have had some form of sanction because once he was back on tarmac, at the much lower speed he was then travelling at, he could - should - have veered away from the racing line where he would have known LH would be. To say that LH should have gone past on the inside is disingenuous because the racing line is the only possible line at racing speed.