Blatman Posted November 6, 2015 Posted November 6, 2015 An i plate will not make any difference as you don't have any extention cabling. If you want to keep the router & long lead (RJ11) where it is now you do need a good lead from the filter to router. It needs to be twisted pairs and screened, the Belkin leads are particularly good. I disagree with shielding UNLESS the modem cable running near other unshielded or high EMF sources like fluorescent lights or electrical cables that are drawing HIGH current. Any losses on the modem cable would be insignificant compared to the several thousand meters of BT cables that run to Terry's house, more so if they are swinging from telegraph poles. I have tried shielded and unshielded cables on several customer sites. I found no measurable effect when looking at the speeds of the connections. I speed test using iPerf to the ISP (I have a comms partner for my customer networks) so I don't have to rely on speedtest.net or other on-line speed test sites. I do have a new favourite on-line speed test though. www.speedof.me I use ALL of these tools for testing and corroboration when I get customers reporting "slow internet" connectivity. Quote
pistonbroke Posted November 7, 2015 Posted November 7, 2015 Hmmmm 2.56 up 35.7 down according to speedofme should test it later when all the little torags are d/l movies/ tv and stuff Quote
SootySport Posted November 7, 2015 Posted November 7, 2015 I disagree with shielding UNLESS the modem cable running near other unshielded or high EMF sources like fluorescent lights or electrical cables that are drawing HIGH current. Any losses on the modem cable would be insignificant compared to the several thousand meters of BT cables that run to Terry's house, more so if they are swinging from telegraph poles. I have tried shielded and unshielded cables on several customer sites. I found no measurable effect when looking at the speeds of the connections. I speed test using iPerf to the ISP (I have a comms partner for my customer networks) so I don't have to rely on speedtest.net or other on-line speed test sites. I do have a new favourite on-line speed test though. www.speedof.me I use ALL of these tools for testing and corroboration when I get customers reporting "slow internet" connectivity. True it does have a minor effect, the twisted pair does however have more effect. There so many cheap plug top transformers and other Chinese sourced electrical devices in houses these days that do cause problems. Old steel overhead wires, aluminium cable don't help either. I deal with this every day at work, work at poxy Openreach. In Terrys case the line is probably the problem, short or long they can have unseen or untestable faults on them. If I was the engineer visiting him, I would change pair of wires all the way back to the exchange. If he has only an 8mb. product then a long line would knock the speed back significantly. Quote
Terry Everall Posted November 7, 2015 Author Posted November 7, 2015 We are a long way from the exchange and an overhead wire runs to the house from the main BT/Openreach roadside Fibre optic box which is app roc 600m away along a country lane Quote
Blatman Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 True it does have a minor effect, the twisted pair does however have more effect. There so many cheap plug top transformers and other Chinese sourced electrical devices in houses these days that do cause problems. Old steel overhead wires, aluminium cable don't help either. I deal with this every day at work, work at poxy Openreach. In Terrys case the line is probably the problem, short or long they can have unseen or untestable faults on them. If I was the engineer visiting him, I would change pair of wires all the way back to the exchange. If he has only an 8mb. product then a long line would knock the speed back significantly. I have an OpenReach question around Infinity availability and how Openreach detail availability in postcode locations which I will send off-line. Brave of you to admit that although I will say that EVERY Openreach engineer I meet on site has been very good indeed. The systems you guys have to work to/under seem a little less than efficient though... We are a long way from the exchange and an overhead wire runs to the house from the main BT/Openreach roadside Fibre optic box which is app roc 600m away along a country lane If you have a fibre optic box 600m away then you have just 600m of copper. Distance from the exchange makes little to no difference if the link from the streetbox to the exchange is fibre. I think we need a bit more info. Quote
Terry Everall Posted November 8, 2015 Author Posted November 8, 2015 My postcode is YO23 2UF and a possible speed search shows 38Mbps or 76 Mbps is available but everyone on my lane only has 3Mbps speed. How would I go about looking at what is really available? Quote
Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 Your local link may not be copper though, or poor if it is. Sadly my last hop is aluminium, and in a fairly crappy state at that. Quote
Paul Hurdsfield - Joint Manchester AO Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 I just tried speedof.me and got 36.12 down and 8.4 up Quote
Terry Everall Posted November 9, 2015 Author Posted November 9, 2015 Download 3.08 Mbps Upload 830 kbps Quote
SootySport Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 My postcode is YO23 2UF and a possible speed search shows 38Mbps or 76 Mbps is available but everyone on my lane only has 3Mbps speed. How would I go about looking at what is really available? So are you saying you are on the fibre broadband? Quote
SootySport Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 I have an OpenReach question around Infinity availability and how Openreach detail availability in postcode locations which I will send off-line. Brave of you to admit that although I will say that EVERY Openreach engineer I meet on site has been very good indeed. The systems you guys have to work to/under seem a little less than efficient though... Now't wrong with the engineers, most of us love the job--------------------just hate OR Quote
Terry Everall Posted November 10, 2015 Author Posted November 10, 2015 Not on fibre optic stuff ours is an overhead line supply Quote
SootySport Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 Not on fibre optic stuff ours is an overhead line supply How about trying the Fibre broadband then. if you are with BT at present the Fibre line should not cost much more, especially if you take up one of the special deals as advertised on bt.com I gather you are miles from the Exchange where the broadband equipment is. With Fibre broadband the broadband equipment is in the fibre cab, therefore should give you a decent speed considering it starts of at 40meg in the cabinet and only has 600m. of copper cable loss. This doesn't mean you'll have a fibre run into your house, it will still be via copper cable. The terminology 'Fibre Broadband' means it's fibre to the cabinet only. Quote
Terry Everall Posted November 10, 2015 Author Posted November 10, 2015 Is there a telephone number I can ring that could check what I can get? Quote
Paul Hurdsfield - Joint Manchester AO Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 My 'green box' is 200 metres away, from there I'm on overhead copper. Quote
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