Red Flash Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 For the sake of 690 and no aggro, I concur also, in taking the car back. You are obviously a genuine guy who had sold in good faith. If he was half as genuine he would of held on to it. I wouldn't bother with his details. I get it fixed and sell it to someone who will except it for what it is. If the next buyer that comes along has trouble free motoring for 12 months and then scraps it, then they have had a bargain. I hope its a cheap fix for you and you then have a swift sale. Good luck Oh and get in touch with the DVLA asap and check before you hand money back as then he'll have 690 plus your log book. Just be cautious There are some devious people out there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanto Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 slight problem, he's the registered keeper now, the V5 will go back to him, how will that be resolved, i hope he's as trustworthy as you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff oakley Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 slight problem, he's the registered keeper now, the V5 will go back to him, how will that be resolved, i hope he's as trustworthy as you. And the car now has another keeper. He may be genuine or he may soon have his money and claim you have his car. Sorry to say I always suspect the worst then sometimes I am pleasantly surprised. Make sure you get full records and an independent witness as he cannot complete the DVLA requirement as the V5 will go to his house in a couple of weeks time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab (bombero) Reid Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 I think the pump may well cost more than I sold the car to him for as its diesel and I only sold it for £690 Plus I've already sent the form off to the DVLA Eek, for only £690, I could understand if you'd just say "it was sold as seen" and he also accepted the light coming on during the test drive. However, i see that you've offered him a refund already .. there's also the issue with the V5 being sent away. A call to DVLA now also required .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windy Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Get the codes read with a simple reader. If it is EGR related, BG244 in the fuel tank & a 200 mile drive up the motorway on / off the throttle at peak torque revs, give the engine some work, should sort it without need for spanners. If that doesn't work clean the EGR valve, refit and clear the codes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyonspride Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 If you take it back, just be careful he hasn't stripped out the fuel pump to fit into an identical vehicle he already owned (ie it was all for a free fuel pump). What's to say his "mate" knows what he's talking about anyway? It's such a mine field buying or selling cars these days!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue ass fly Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I would certainly get it checked by a renault specialist who can read live data It could be something small that theyre trying to take advantage of Once you both know what the problem is you can decide which way to approach it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cast iron Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 A private sale is absolutely bought as seen. There is no come back on the seller. However that doesnt mean you may feel obliged out of courtesey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhutch Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 A private sale is absolutely bought as seen. There is no come back on the seller. However that doesnt mean you may feel obliged out of courtesey. That would be my take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsechris Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 The V5 in your name doesn't make you the owner, just the registered (and legally liable) keeper so other than the hassle of having to get it sent back again, I wouldn't fret about that bit at this stage. It's in the buyers interest to sort that out. I do respect your action to refund though, even though you aren't obliged. I've done the same thing, sold an old car to a chap a few years back. It had recently had a fresh MOT (trusted tester) and I truly and honestly believed it to be OK. Not long after buying it, the chap sent me some pictures of the underside, a jack had gone through the sill while he was having a puncture fixed - it was badly rusted. I didn't have to, but for my peace of mind I gave him a 50% refund to cover the cost of the repair. If I had known it was as badly rotted as it was, I'd have simply scrapped it - it only went for £400 anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonPeffers Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 The new owner has bought a near thirteen year old car for banger money and expects no problems when realistically parts could fail regularly at that age. Also what is the cost of a second hand fuel pump? I agree with Lyonspride about the dangers of downgraditis as it happened to a car of mine. Bit of a minefield but it really is a case of sold as seen. Hope your goodwill doesn't cause you problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyonspride Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 The new owner has bought a near thirteen year old car for banger money and expects no problems when realistically parts could fail regularly at that age. Not only that, he's bought a French 13 year old car..... That's 20 normal car years at the very least Perhaps he got a bit too close to a BMW/Merc/Audi/VW on the way back home and it just gave up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Colonial Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 You did the right thing, well done on you. Hope it's a cheap fix and offer him first refusal once it's sorted. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff oakley Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 It is a mute point now, but where do you draw the line, one day, one week, one month, one year. I have bought many bangers over the years and always accepted the risk, but now it appears that anything you sell is a risk as people feel entitled to a money back warranty. Sell something on Ebay, the guy says it is faulty, Ebay give him his money back so he now has your money and your goods and you have the problem of chasing them. For me sold as seen means that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrophyJem Posted May 13, 2015 Author Share Posted May 13, 2015 I have now given him a refund and I have the car back. As luck would have it my wife had forgot to send off the V5. She took it to work and forgot Its written all over ready to send off but I should be able to get a replacement. One problem is, he has taxed it and the DVLA won't refund his tax as he's not the registered keeper. They say he can't have a refund until he has the V5 in his name (which isn't going to happen). They won't refund it to me either as I have it taxed separately in my name. So he has it taxed and so do I. He's very unhappy about the TAX but what can I do. I explained its not my fault and I have offered to ring the DVLA tomorrow to try and sort. Not sure I'm going to get anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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