cast iron Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Get Seb Loeb and Seb Vettel to swap cars, then see who is the quickest...My money is on Loeb.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M444TTB Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I'd not bet against Vettel in any machinery. He's hardly shabby at RoC. That RB9 requires the driver to adapt their style to get the true performance from the car. Something even the very best can't always do. Seeing Loeb giving F1 a proper shot a few years back could have been very interesting to see. I wonder where on the Surtees-Bourdais scale of motorsport cross-over to F1 he would have landed. He tested well 5 or so years back didn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistonbroke Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I would say that a good driver is one that can take an inferior car on the grid and still win. I appreciate that this is probably impossible now so maybe we should put the others in Vettel's car to see who can beat his lap times. It's all theory based. Nuvolari is my "best" driver as he consistently drove faster than others even when using an inferior car. So you never watched Gilles Villenueve ( who incedentaly reminded Enzo of his beloved Nuvolari ) drive the hopelessly outdated ferrari 312 just one quote of many During the extremely wet Friday practice session for the season-ending United States Grand Prix, Villeneuve set a time 11 seconds faster than any other driver. His teammate Jody Scheckter, who was second fastest, recalled that "I scared myself rigid that day. I thought I had to be quickest. Then I saw Gilles's time and — I still don't really understand how it was possible. Eleven seconds!"[25] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenandmean Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Despite him being a fast driver I never took to Gilles, probably because I saw him as a danger and menace to every other driver on track and also all the marshals around the track. His attitude to get a wounded car back to the pits despite the wounds being mortal whilst shedding bits everywhere for other drivers to try and avoid and for the marshals to pick up (yes in those days marshals actually went out on track with just a yellow flag for protection) was in my opinion reckless, foolish, and the damn fool should have never been allowed to sit in a race car again. I also think his attitude was a major factor in the crash that sadly ended his life. Yes I understand its in the make up of a racing driver to push the limits but its knowing how far to push and not exceed them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistonbroke Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 agree about his reckless approach mclaren turned him down for the same reason , but he was magic to watch , given time and a more competative car I'm sure he would have settled down and become an even faster driver . There were more desperate drivers around than Giles but were nowhere near as talented , before his day the brothers Brambilla and Rodrigues had quite a reputation as did Willie Marraise My own particular favourites after Clark where Rindt and then Ronnie Peterson both were capable of doing magic behind the wheel you just don't see the likes of these days . In Petersons case politics decided he was always the No 2 driver even though he was miles quicker than his number 1 team mates of the time Fittipaldi and Andretti (both became world champions) , sadly neither with us today . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenandmean Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 before his day the brothers Brambilla and Rodrigues had quite a reputation That made me delve into the memory banks Bernie Vittorio Brambilla the Monza Gorilla, yes he certainly knew how to break a car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistonbroke Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Vittorio only ever won 1 Grand Prix , Austrian GP , in the rain and promptly crashed the car after he crossed the finish line ! Vittorio's older brother was Ernesto "Tino" who never got a F1 drive for some reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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