Blatman Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 I'll send you my invoice for consultation!! Quote
Blatman Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 The only thing I will say is that JunOS is awkward. I need to assign an ip to an interface but it needs to be manageable. Menu help only gets you so far though and this is my first foray on juniper CLI. Cisco stuff is easy enough although I have 5 weeks to do another exam or I lose my current quals! Does this help... Quote
rocket_rabbit Posted January 22, 2012 Author Posted January 22, 2012 Learning basic RIP/RIPv2 is OK so changes can be made, but it's never going to be chosen as a protocol to use on a new network. So far in my Network career I have never come across a RIP / RIPv2 network. But I can configure and fault find it if I have to. The price goes up though! EIGRP is Cisco propietary of course so it only works on Cisco devices. OSPF is the choice if you have a mixed or non Cisco environment. OSPF can get difficult with multiple area designs especially if we get in to the realms of Stub/Totally Stub and NSSA Areas and Virtual Links, and then we'd be off to the races with re-distribution and route summarisation, which I also love to do! Yeah, RIP is pretty reducndant these days, but still completely acceptable. IIRC, 15 Hops. We use OSPF which is very warm and cuddly to configure Yeah, Not So Stubby Areas still makes me laugh I can subnet in my head completely. It's one of the reasons I did my CCNA exam in 30 mins instead of the 90 mins you are allowed. I have always been good at mental arithmetic (My Grandad drummed that into me from an early age) and there was a lot of binary calcs involved with my degree. As such, route summarising is a complete breeze. How much have you done with IS-IS Blat/S2K? I remember my mate who used to work at Pipex saying it was making a comeback for MPLS, but I have never really dealt with it. That guide you posted up was all GUI based Blat. I have no choice but to go through console and CLI because I inadvertently turned the interface management capability of when trying to config NSRP (You can't choose VRRP, has to be the Juniper Proprietary one). It surely can't be too difficult, but was just a bit dissapointed with the lack of menu help. S2K7 we used to sue L3 switches in my old place of work. A lot less mucking about and a lot less config too. I have my own L3 switch in my Home lab too Everything is router on a stick, barring the 6509 core, where I work now. Quote
cleowuss Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 Okay. Can we have that in english please :o Think I'll stick to nuts and bolts. Richard Quote
ACW Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 You have cable management and a wide 1M cabinet for the rack with the 3945s. But the patching rack has no cable management and isnt wide enough to give vertical cable management. IMHO - you should add this now, as with future adds this will become a mess that will stop you closing the door. I would also use colours to differentiate services (eg Voice / Data - Trunk / Access etc) OSPF / BGP with optimisation are the way to go now days. EIGRP for special Cisco only network use where you have a limited radius and want faster convergence with stability. IS-IS is mostly deprecated. Typically only seen in special environments such as Telco / Carrier legacy environments - telephony switch interconnects etc. Your going to need some layer 3 to split the voice and data VLANs but this could be done on a router layer if no L3 switch is present. ETA - Has the patch cables been made to length on site ? If so I would replace with moulded Cat 6 factory made as at best existing wont be Cat 6 and at worse they will be a constant source of issue for years to come. Quote
s2k7 Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 I'll send you my invoice for consultation!! I will pay you a bushel of shrimp!! I used to do this type of job & totally detached to Mr. Cisco. After running pop's industrial turbo & diesel injection joint, I have a new job (2012)-- running mom's shrimp industry. No more spanning-tree for me. Quote
Captain Colonial Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 This is about the seventh most baffling thread I've read in here. Quote
Blatman Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 I've had no exposure to IS-IS other than understanding it's reasonably similar to OSPF as it's Link State rather than Distance Vector, and it's heirarchical. I don't work for a Telco and the systems I design and deploy are mostly limited radius so I do a lot of static / directly attached routing (IE, almost no routing config required in most cases) but as I am at liberty to spec all Cisco kit I use EIGRP when interior routing is requred. My last design was multi-VLAN wireless network. I needed some help with the wireless AP's as we were running without a WLC, but no voice. My next one has to include voice as well so I'm gonna need to get my VOIP lab going and buy a CUCM supporting router as that's what I'll be deploying. Other network requirements means I don't think a UCM300 / 500 would be an appropriate choice, unless the Webmaster can telll me otherwise! Quote
Cleggy the Spyder Man Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 this is basically a geeks p******** competition either that or XI129 has hacked blatmans login Quote
ACW Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 Assuming you mean UCM BE 3000/5000 then depending on the requirements these could be a really good choice. All the functionality of full UCM and UC but single node cluster only. So you dont get node to node redundancy. Bear in mind however you do get to use UCME SRST mode still for redundacy if UCM BE node is down. If you mean UC300/UC500 then these are OK, but low end. UC5XX are fairly ok but depends on requirements - you still get a lot of features however, Quote
ACW Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 this is basically a geeks p******** competition either that or XI129 has hacked blatmans login Cisco Wheelies...... Quote
Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 Just wait, one of them usually starts speaking in IOS etc. before these threads get too long Quote
SteveD Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT4F9Qgik6bdHWoRqnRPTJksjI0v0c-Cc1whvClUZV7MuY0MWYwUQ Quote
Blatman Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 Ah yeah UC5xx I meant. I need to check out UCM 300/500's properly but I suspect I'll go with a 2900 Router with an ADSL WIC interface and the Voicemail module under the lid. It's pretty much a money bo object network so I can happily avoid anything low end pretty easily... And The Webmaster is easily gonna pull the best Cisco wheelies... dammit :0 Quote
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