markcoopers Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 Hi All, While I seek honesty here, I do so with the hope of constructive views. So been looking to sell my Westfield for a while and a long story short....no real interest, so how should I improve my add and Market the car? Pm me if you prefer? Kind regards, Mark My Car advert Quote
SootySport Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 We are not all slim enough to fit into the Narrows these days , nothing wrong with adverts only patience and a price drop will help. Lovely car and already set up is a bonus. Quote
WEMORGAN Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 Maybe this is not the ideal time of the year, nor the financial climate to be selling luxury toys. None of that really helps you I know, other than wait for next spring or sadly reduce the price. Quote
Mark (smokey mow) Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 It seems to be a difficult market, whilst certain cars are moving on to new homes very quickly others have been less lucky. There's been some absolute bargains on here recently and as a concequence potential buyers may perceive yours and other cars to be overprice. Looking at pistonheads I'm still amazed that juansolo's narrow hasn't sold yet considering the price he's asking. It only takes that one buyer though to want a car that matches exactly what you're selling, having seen you car I know it to be a corker and IMO priced well but around that price range everyone seems to be wanting widebodied cars at the moment. Quote
flyingbanana Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 Old chestnut that the enthusisast for your car has not seen it yet, so you have to drop the price to interest less focussed buyers (even if your current price is good value). I know it is advertised as a more focussed car, the cage actually puts me off, and the colour is quite distinctive... I saw and heard it briefly at a meet and I think it is a great car technically, but maybe it is neither track weapon nor everyman's wekend toy. I think the text in your advert might be slightly offputting/confusing- I almost read it as the car is incorrectly registered, which may be a concern, so a rewrite/further clarification might be in order. As said earlier, it does seem that Wide body cars are often more appealing, especially if you need to accomodate those of less slim build in your toy. Suggestions? Make the picture in your signature a bit smaller so you can see all the vehicle without scrolling, and add a shot that shows some of the dashboard at least. Offer it without the cage? Eliminate the trailer from the sale and advertise it separately from the car. You say no real interest- If any interest has led to offers, then maybe start to aim the price at that level. As ever, what you are selling is only worth what the audience will pay, so you will have to drop the price or find a wider audience, but I think here and PH ought to catch a fairly broad audience. Could you put a video on Youtube? Facebook page advertisments? (I don't know if FB does that sort of thing) Ebay advert? Quote
nikpro Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 Mark; it depends how desperate you are to get rid of it! I don't believe the addage 'It's only worth what the market will pay' scenario. The car is worth every penny you are asking for it - I would actually value it higher! It is a very limited audience you are selling to though. I would imagine this would sell to a person that has probably already owned a Westfield or other track type car - it's just a matter of waiting for the right person - someone that knows Westfields and knows what they want; not someone who is just interested in paper spec. To sell it to someone who doesn't know Westfields you would have to drop the price considerably - those type of people are 'ignorant' to the cars and want the spec sheet to read: (1) SEiW (2) Duratec Engine/ highly tuned VX (3) 220+bhp etc, etc. Your car is stunning, it is well sorted and proven - hang out for the price you have it advertised for if you can - I see/hear of so many people buying fairly standard cars with the above spec that have all sorts of problems with them because they are 'not developed'. They spend more on their £6-£7k cheap Westfield getting it to run right at all and they still 'fall far below' the ability/quality of this! Good Luck. Quote
flyingbanana Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 The problem for Mark is that he said he wants "the" money for his new car, so time is not on his side. This means the value or worth of his car becomes less important, and the amount interested parties will pay more so. If nobody is interested in buying then price must fall or marketing must improve. Even in my limited experience around Westfields I can see that this car is definitely "worth" the asking price if I wanted to create such a machine, and I think most people here are in agreement that it presents very good value, but that is academic if nobody who has seen it will pay that money and the seller needs to sell. In addition to my previous suggestions, maybe look at listing some of the major costs to get close to the spec. of this car, so the uniformed buyer can see at a glance why it is a good deal. The problem is that the best time to sell something is when you want to keep it and don't need the money! Good Luck! FB (who can't afford to buy your car ) Quote
lippydave Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 Realistically if you want to sell it quickly you have to take a kick in the (financial) b*****k.... As others have said the car is worth what you are asking, but you will have to wait out the right buyer. Wrong time of year perhaps and with so much other metal on the market, many buyers options are opened up to something entirely different. The used market is full of bargains at the moment IMHO. For instance someone with 10k to blow on a toy can easily be distracted by the likes of a leggy E46 M3 for the same ballpark price as yer Westie....I know it's a completely different car, but things like this turn folks heads..... If you can afford to wait it out, then do it. If you've seen something you desparately want and need the dough, then a kick in the (wallet) 'nads is unfortunately your destiny Quote
juansolo Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 Our problem quite simply, is that we want a reasonable price for them. I have no doubt whatsoever that if mine was £1000 cheaper I'd get a lot more interest (and also a lot of people wanting it for even less than that...). People buying Westfields want a bargain or a percieved bargain. What they don't seem to want is a more expensive, well thought out car, that's not going to cost them much more in the long run... The other issue is that I think you have to have had one to know what you actually want out of one. So on paper to a noob, mine doesn't look that special for a lot of money. Whereas if you've had one before and used it in anger, you can totally get where it's coming from. It's a tough one as our market isn't as clued up as people who've ran these things for quite a while. Also there's the kit car thing of buying on condition/spec rather than age/milage. Edited to add: It's why mine's listed but it won't bother me if it doesn't sell. Oh and talking about the right buyer, I've got a very good idea what car I'll be buying next and that guy is in exactly the same boat. You can pick up a Cobra rep for much less than he's asking and most people won't be able to see why. On the upside it'll still probably be around when/if mine actually sells. Thankfully he seems to have the same attitude to me towards selling. He knows what it's worth to someone like me and it just going to wait until that someone comes along. In the meantime, he has a very sweet car to play with. Quote
lippydave Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 Our problem quite simply, is that we want a reasonable price for them. I have no doubt whatsoever that if mine was £1000 cheaper I'd get a lot more interest (and also a lot of people wanting it for even less than that...). People buying Westfields want a bargain or a percieved bargain. What they don't seem to want is a more expensive, well thought out car, that's not going to cost them much more in the long run... The other issue is that I think you have to have had one to know what you actually want out of one. So on paper, certainly mine, doesn't look that special for a lot of money. Whereas if you've had one before and used it in anger, you can totally get where it's coming from. It's a tough one as our market isn't as clued up as people who've ran these things for quite a while Also there's the kit car thing of buying on condition/spec rather than age/milage. I'd agree with what you're saying, but the reality is people buying anything at the moment want a perceived bargain.... I'd agree wholeheartedly that folk new to 7 style cars have no idea of what spec' will work for them in the way they intend to use the car, and it's harder for them to sort the wheat from the chaff" As Nikpro said, their is a general train of thought out there that a modern 7 needs to be a Duratec with a claimed 250bhp to be "any good"..Doesn't matter if the cognoscenti know otherwise... Both of your cars are obviously well sorted, well thought out effective cars, and IMHO priced correctly, but MHO or yours doesn't count when it comes to what people and the market perceive the value of them at.... Quote
juansolo Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 I'd agree with what you're saying, but the reality is people buying anything at the moment want a perceived bargain.... I'd agree wholeheartedly that folk new to 7 style cars have no idea of what spec' will work for them in the way they intend to use the car, and it's harder for them to sort the wheat from the chaff" As Nikpro said, their is a general train of thought out there that a modern 7 needs to be a Duratec with a claimed 250bhp to be "any good"..Doesn't matter if the cognoscenti know otherwise... Both of your cars are obviously well sorted, well thought out effective cars, and IMHO priced correctly, but MHO or yours doesn't count when it comes to what people and the market perceive the value of them at.... Totally agree, which is why mine is advertised as it is. Thankfully I don't need to sell and I'm certainly not going to give it away. Quote
JeffC Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 with cars like these you rarely get back your investment of upgrades, Ive had to strip every car ive had to achieve the most financial return as buyers are so short sited when buying something like this , they have the chance of getting something at a fraction of build cost yet would rather buy a cheaper car and then spend £1000s on it from a selling point of viewthough 9/10 If you have advertised something for a long period of time and you are not getting inquiries then it has to be a price thing, so you either stick out and wait but run the risk of a potential buyer buying something else or reduce to appeal to someone. human nature we all want a bargain what ever you do good luck Quote
juansolo Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 Oh it's absolutely price. Buyers have a mental barrier of 10k on a Westfield for his and mine doesn't have 200hp, ali 4 pots or a BGH box so can't be worth the 8.5k that I'm asking... I reckon £500 off the asking price for both would be all it would take to get a lot more interest. Then again, the buyer is likely to think they can get another £500 off that in haggling... Always amused me that people miraculously always only have £500 less than the asking price. It's an amazing coincidence. Make me an offer by all means as 'it's as much as you're prepared to pay'. That I have no problem with (That's not to say that I'm going to accept it, of course...). Pleading poverty to me doesn't however appeal to my charitable side, as I don't have one Quote
Speed Freak Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 getting back to markcoopers... I also think your car looks tidy.. The cage might put the odd few people off...Especially those who havent yet had a westy, and are only looking for a weekend blatter... I personally love the colour, but it is one, that you may love/hate?? If it had been wide bodied I would have personally been interested, but as the world is going, Im not the lightest fellar, weighing in at a rather heavy weight 14.5 stone and 6ft2... So no fitting in there. Younger generations are getting taller, so maybe the narrow size puts off the younger ones, who are potentially your target area, as the car is quite track focused.. Either way, it is a great car, but dropping the price, wouldnt help me, cos I still couldnt fit in it! Quote
cast iron Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 As hinted in Jeff's post, break it! You would be surprised how much you can get. Quote
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