Plays-Kool Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 . Yeeeeees, someone who thinks we might not be wasting our time. <!--emo& You can get a s**t load more weight out of that car yet. Any buy some NEW tyres or else you really will be wasting your time. Mark, its always been on fresh rubber (<4 events old). You are right about weight but fixing that is the easier bit so (slow) progress is being made elsewhere first. Kevin, Looking back on the time I ran my supercharged Haybusa power Westie. If I had the time again I would concentrate much more on weight and handling than I did. Just my twopence worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Jones Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Thanks Nick, I will try focus there a bit more although I don't think it will work until the engine responds how I want it to which is what's taking the time to evolve. This always was a marmite option, the best or worst of G & H, but that's why I took it on of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timblejim Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 I'm sure that regular readers of this forum, and anyone who knows me. will know of my hatred of bike engines. However, I do see the sense in buidling a competition BEC. As far as value for money/speed it can't be beaten. The amount of money spent on a CEC to make it beat a bec's is prohibitive, regardless of circuit. The international circuit at Ty Croes is a fast circuit, and does not lend itself to BECS, as they are on the rev limiter for a considerable part of the straight, topping out at circa 120mph, when the CEC's can do significantly more. (150mph is possible in Del's car, though not at Ty Croes!) Mick, I don't think you wil be convined, cos you're right, bike power it is....and you know how much that pains me...........Now just build the light weight BEC, and find a light weight driver to pedal it!! weight watchers here I come......... again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidgh Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 It is a sad, though scientific, fact that driver weight makes more of a percentage difference to a car weighing in at 370kg than to one weighing 600kg. Pie lovers should definitely try to make the best of a SEight. Having said that, skill helps as well. A 110kg person I know regularly beats his 90kg father in a 470kg BEC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Seabrook Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 If I had been going down the road of getting Buttercup back to sprinting weight was the area of focus. A light car with a low power to weight ratio will be faster than a heavy car with a high power to weight ratio with the same driver as long as he is not Giant Haystacks. Thats for sprinting and hill climbs of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Loudon - Sponsorship Liaison Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 If I had been going down the road of getting Buttercup back to sprinting weight was the area of focus. A light car with a low power to weight ratio will be faster than a heavy car with a high power to weight ratio with the same driver as long as he is not Giant Haystacks. Thats for sprinting and hill climbs of course. Definitely - especially as Giant Haystacks is dead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Seabrook Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 If I had been going down the road of getting Buttercup back to sprinting weight was the area of focus. A light car with a low power to weight ratio will be faster than a heavy car with a high power to weight ratio with the same driver as long as he is not Giant Haystacks. Thats for sprinting and hill climbs of course. Definitely - especially as Giant Haystacks is dead! Showing you age John I knew I would catch someone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham frankland Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 It seems to me that competing in the Speed Series is a very individual thing! Each entrant I think needs to decide what he or she wants to achieve from the competition. Once that has been decided then a strategy has to be developed to achieve the desired objective I think this what the big guys talk about developing the right package, ie budget, driver, equipment. Again the package is a very individual thing and each part of the package has to be right throughout the season to deliver the results I believe this approach has been very cost effectively demonstrated by Stu Hill this year It maybe CEC or BEC nothing can be set in stone Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Edden Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I am proud to say that my package hangs over my waistband every time I pull my racesuit on. If only I could lose about 5 stone, I would be awarding myself the overall winners prize at the WSCC Dinner. Don't forget - some focus on the pure enjoyment of being involved in the Speed Series and are not that bothered about the overall championship or winning every race (yep - me for instance). My winter prep is well known by now; park the car up in October - uncover it in March, change the oil & pump up the tyres - coat of Autoglym and away we go. I believe that I am still competitive in my own sphere of buddies with similar spec cars - and to me - this is the essence of the speed series. BEC or CEC - for me - not bothered, just enjoy taking part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham frankland Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Exactly my point Mr Chairman You have decided what you want from the SS and are happy with your results As for me I am one step away from the perfect car and driver partnership! Just need a new driver! Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixermark Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Mick - have the recent reduction in temperatures taken their hold on you !! ? I'm surprised to read you are even talking about bike engines..... also interested to read that you are missing the competitive side of your creativity.... do i have visions of a VERY light and special BEC WEsty being created !! ? would love to see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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