I've never seen a Westfield do this ...

[Nick Algar - Competition Secretary]

The theory all sounds great, until you get the effect of the chassis "spring or flex" which then complicates it no end and means that sometimes set-ups that in "Theory" should not work actually DO.

Conclusion, we can all talk on about theory on here, but at the end of the day, it's about getting the maximum out of the car, with a specific driver on board. Ie Lewis likes the car really loose at the rear (slidy) where as Jenson like it more balanced.

[Scottish Bloke]

The theory all sounds great, until you get the effect of the chassis "spring or flex" which then complicates it no end and means that sometimes set-ups that in "Theory" should not work actually DO.

Conclusion, we can all talk on about theory on here, but at the end of the day, it's about getting the maximum out of the car, with a specific driver on board. Ie Lewis likes the car really loose at the rear (slidy) where as Jenson like it more balanced.

I agree with "The Master" and had too many pringles last night to follow this any further    

[JeffC]

wwwooooooaaaaaaooooohhhhh thats complicated    

I just jump in and drive it      

[nikpro]

wwwooooooaaaaaaooooohhhhh thats complicated    

I just jump in and drive it      

.........and that's exactly what you should do Jeff  

The theory is there for Chassis/component designers and gets even more complicated when you take into account slip angles and the 'tyre Curve', Caster induced camber etc.

However, as a result of this theory you end up with a graph called the 'G-Circle' (......No, not the 'G-Spot' StevieD!   ). Understanding this will show a driver how he can get more grip from his tyres and faster lap times...............but that's another massive post!

[SteveD]

wwwooooooaaaaaaooooohhhhh thats complicated    

I just jump in and drive it      

.........and that's exactly what you should do Jeff  

.but that's another massive post!

chop chop then shape yourself wuv

[nikpro]

wwwooooooaaaaaaooooohhhhh thats complicated    

I just jump in and drive it      

.........and that's exactly what you should do Jeff  

.but that's another massive post!

chop chop then shape yourself wuv

.....Really; I'm sure I've bored 99.9% of everyone already!

[John Loudon - Sponsorship Liaison]

.......Now the bad!

The ARB actually transfers weight from the inside (unloaded tyre) to the outside (loaded tyre).

All very good but surely the above is the statement is the wrong way round?

[nikpro]

.......Now the bad!

The ARB actually transfers weight from the inside (unloaded tyre) to the outside (loaded tyre).

All very good but surely the above is the statement is the wrong way round?

John, it is correct; an ARB transfers weight from unloaded to loaded - the stiffer the bar the more load is transfered.

(It is the axle's stiffness in roll that causes the (sprung) weight transfer (forget about the unsprung forces) - it's very hard to word with my basic understanding of English - it is a very good point and I have edited the Post to say we are talking about the sprung mass of the vehicle and not the unsprung forces   )

[dstorey]

Thanks nikpro,

Your last comment: "an ARB transfers weight from unloaded to loaded - the stiffer the bar the more load is transfered." turned on a small lightbulb for me! More weight on the loaded tyre gives more grip/ traction on it.  

I think I'll need to read your write up a few times to get the finer details though!

Dom