Mitch Posted August 3, 2002 Share Posted August 3, 2002 Got some panels on my Megabusa kit and am about to fit the brake and fuel lines. Can I fit all braided lines or is this not SVA friendly? Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu999 Posted August 4, 2002 Share Posted August 4, 2002 Hi Mitch. I am presuming that you mean that braided flexible line would be utilised rather than rigid pipes. I apologise for answering a question with a question, but why? Other than a purely aesthetic point of view I can't see any benefits. Personally I would recommend using rigid pipes because using flexible pipe may create a spongy feel to the brake pedal. I know the braided lines eliminate sponginess when used as a replacement for rubber hoses, but when used to 'line' a car any flex in the hose would be amplified considerably at the brake pedal end. These are just my thoughts, someone else may be able to enlighten us more.... Hope this helps, Stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted August 4, 2002 Author Share Posted August 4, 2002 Hi Stu, Yes I mean the flexible lines and yes probably purely for "aesthetic" purposes although I would guess they would be easier to fit tidily and to replace. Dunno about performance though. Ho hum, guess I'd better find the pipe bender.... Thanks again, Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick M Posted August 4, 2002 Share Posted August 4, 2002 I've fitted braided hoses throughout my car and with Wilwood 4 pots the brakes don't feel spongy. The Red Stuff pads take a while to warm up, which could feel like sponginess but once they're warm the pedal is rock solid. So, no issue with spongy brakes. Things to bear in mind - the cost of fittings is a lot more. You also need to think about how to assemble the hoses as there's very little twist in them - you have to start from a fixed point, e.g. the master cylinder, and then carefully measure the hose length and assemble the fitting on the other in in situ so you get it correctly lined up. I also have one annoying little leak which I need to get rid of. Plus side is they're much easier to work with and the use of banjo fittings makes 90 bends much easier to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Yupright Posted August 4, 2002 Share Posted August 4, 2002 I also have one annoying little leak which I need to get rid of. Arrrrggghhhhhh!! You never told me that before I got in it for that passenger ride around the silverstone trackday last week... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick M Posted August 4, 2002 Share Posted August 4, 2002 LOL !! It's a really tiddly little bit of weeping by the T-piece on the front of the chassis. Needs a new copper washer really as a little tweak didn't cure it. Besides, we weren't going quick enough on Wednesday to worry about it !!! Oh, and ACB10s = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted August 5, 2002 Author Share Posted August 5, 2002 Nick, Thanks for that - braided lines it is then! Just wanted to make sure someones else had done it before. Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David_East Posted August 5, 2002 Share Posted August 5, 2002 Mitch Sorry to be a Jonah but Just wanted to make sure someones else had done it before. Just because somebody has done it before doesn't mean Mr SVA can't get out of bed the wrong side and change his mind Check with your local or any SVA Inspector. In general they are helpful He probably would only have issues with the security of the pipes and how frequently they are secured down the chassis. If he says OK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted August 6, 2002 Author Share Posted August 6, 2002 Hmm, perhaps a trip down to Beverley may be in order so I can have a sniff about. Maybe the James Bond style tyre shredding hub centres aren't a good idea either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick M Posted August 6, 2002 Share Posted August 6, 2002 I should point out that my car was built pre-SVA and the braided hoses were added over the winter. Deffo check with SVA centre before you start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Loudon - Sponsorship Liaison Posted August 6, 2002 Share Posted August 6, 2002 My car also has braided hoses throughout, except down the tunnel. It makes caliper removal for work on the front and rear running gear much easier. My car is live axle and removing the half shafts (and complete axle) can be done without breaking the fluid lines. At the front I am going to (not yet done) run a double ended banjo on the master cylinder so that I can just have one flexible line to each front caliper. Much more flexible and can be routed nicer IMO. Downside is the flexible braided pipe costs a mint. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveF Posted August 6, 2002 Share Posted August 6, 2002 I found an SVA guide which just state that the lines "must be of durable materials", "not kinked stretched or twisted", "adequately supported, using suitable clips, which will not cause them damage, and not be exposed to excessive heat, or a corrosive environment". Hope this helps Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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